"For My Yoke is Kindly and My Load is Light"...

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  PSacramento

  Dear Shelby,

  FOr a thread to be title "for my yoke is kindly and my load is light" and then to have you say this: I cannot tell you the prayers... and tears... that I have undergone during this time.

  Makes me hope that things will be "kinder and lighter" for you in the times to come, but alas, we both know that won't be the case.

  Don't rush to Judge those that seem to have been "stumbled" indeed don't judge those that HAVE been.

  We all choose what and how to do what we feel we must.

  Very few exJW's will ever put their trust on "man" again, of course that means that only one left to trust is God and our Lord Jesus, so maybe that is not a bad thing ;)

  You told me to be careful with my wording, as did DD on the grace thread, because I seemed to have said things that went against what you both believed to be correct.

  All I can say is that I do the best I can with what I have and try my best to clear things when there is confusion.

  I ask for NO ONE to believe me or take my word for anything, I am nothing, I am dust, I express my opinion and ask that anyone reading exam it if they choose and decide for themselves or ignore it.

  What I say I say out of love and out of kidness and compassion, things I BELIEVE that all of us are deserving of.
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  AGuest

  I "hear" you, dear PSacto (again, peace to you!). Please know that I, too, do the best I can... with what I have... and have been given. IMHO, we should praise JAH that we are NOT all "feet"... or "hands"... or "eyes"... in the Body. That truly is the BEAUTY of the Body, that we are diverse... in every way. That does not preclude us, however, from speaking the truth... to the extent it remains with us. As you (and dear BXJW stated)... very few will put their trust in "man" again. You know, though, dear one, that that has been my message from the beginning... that they SHOULDN'T. And that I solicit NO ONE to listen to me. Trusting in the the Most Holy One of Israel, our heavenly Father, JAH... and His Son and Christ, the Holy One of Israel and Holy Spirit... is the ONLY "way." I stake my life... and, obviously, my name... on it.

  What you stated didn't go against what I "believe." It did, however, give an inaccurate statement of what is true. Since we NOT to follow man any longer... should we also not follow man's "way"... i.e., teaching partial truths and pseudo-falsehoods... sayings things in a way that is "pleasing" to the ear, even if it isn't totally true... any longer, as well? Isn't that what FALSE christs (anointed) and FALSE prophets do... in order to "mislead, if possible, EVEN the chosen ones? Given this, shouldn't WE, those who profess to be of the Body of Christ, not try to take ALL care to speak the truth, at all times, but particularly when it comes to things related to God and Christ? If not, aren't we being just like those who misled US, previously? And do we not risk becoming such "men" ourselves?

  No one should be following me... or listening to me. I put it out there, yes... and truthfully. But that is as we ALL should be doing. As servants... as "rocks" crying out. Some may wish to speak "soothingly"... which is entirely okay... to the extent it doesn't deviate... one iota... from what is true. Given the choice between soothing words... and truth... I have to choose truth. I HAVE to. Because to do anything else would be to do exactly what those "men" did and do. Which is wrong. And to do so while criticizing them... and telling people that THEY are "false prophets"... would be hypocrisy.

  Which is why the Holy Spirit directed Priscilla and Aquila to "expound the way of God more accurately" to Apollos... and Paul openly corrected Peter. WE... have an accounting.

  I know you understand.

  Again, peace to you!

  YOUR servant and fellow slave of Christ,

  SA
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  Inkie

  Dear BXJW: You wrote,

  Dear SA, (and I do mean the "Dear" sincerely as a fellow Christian)

  I am sure that SA will honor your request not to respond to you here in this thread any longer (unless, of course, you should change your mind and take back your request). However, because SA is a dear dear friend to me, I shall take the liberty of speaking up in her defense, so to speak.

  You quoted her and wrote in response:

  "I cannot tell you the prayers... and tears... that I have undergone during this time"

  I believe you but the problem, imo, is that most here have at one time also prayed with tears and much suffering trying to understand why it is that men who claimed to be anointed and who claimed to be followers of Christ were in fact not what they claimed but insisted that we believe they were.

  I totally get what you state here. I too admit to having cried out to Jah with strong outcries and tears concerning something that was extremely important to me. I have posted my experience on this board as to what happened as a result of those outcries and tears. (I can’t remember in which thread I posted that but it’s there to be found.)

  You should know that the problem is because the men you refer to “claim” to be anointed rather than “are” anointed. We were warned. We were warned of this very thing. Our Lord Himself warned us of these men. (Matthew 7:15; 24:11, 24,25) So we really shouldn’t have been surprised too much that these things happened in our lives. And, having been warned, can we rightly be mad/angry at the person who warned us? Really?

  They tore us to pieces, they stumbled us, they tore from us our trust in God and the Bible. We too have suffered with many tears!

  Indeed! They did tear many of us to pieces. But how can you expect a wolf not to do what wolf does? (Matthew 7:15; Acts 20:29) They’re wolves.

  I, like many here, will never trust another man or woman with my faith and beliefs again. Never!

  Yes! Amen! And praise Jah for that. But weren’t we also warned about that too? Isn’t it written in the Bible: “Do not put your trust in nobles, nor in the son of earthling man, to whom no salvation belongs. . . .”? (Psalm 146:3) And how many times have we heard that verse inside the Kingdom Hall? How many times? And yet, we did it anyway, didn’t we. Even when we were told not to do such a thing. We did it anyway. Whom can we blame?

  I trust the Christ. I trust God. No man, no woman.

  Excellent!

  And when a man or woman claims to speak for the Christ there is an instant revulsion in my heart and a red flag that goes up, something like being exposed to an allergen that has sensitized my religious immune system.

  Wow! Now that is a metaphor. I totally get where you’re coming from—truly I do. While SA speaks what she speaks, writes what she write, SA has told people here on this board countless times that they should not listen to her but rather that they should go to Christ directly themselves and do what the Father has stated: “Listen to him [God’s Son].” Over and over and over again she has stated this. SA has told people not to trust her but go to the Christ. While I understand your revulsion at what you describe, I think in this situation with SA, your revulsion is misplaced.

  You said above, "Again, I bid you the GREATEST of love and peace, and I AM..." (emphasis mine)

  Lady Lee is right, if we disagree with you better it is not to open your threads. To open your threads is for me the same as an abused woman who opened the threads of a man who claimed that some women need a little abuse now and then to keep them in line. Better to leave it alone and pass it by than to open the thing and live again the hurt that I am trying to recover from. The hurt that came from religious leaders who insisted that they sincerely represented God and Christ.

  I understand. But, please, do not think too harshly of SA. She comes here and writes from a kind place in her heart. I know SA real well as many others here on this board do also. She comes from a kind and loving place in her heart.

  When SA writes that she wishes you peace—she means it.

  You are, I AM? Then I wish you peace and the love of God upon you.

  I am sure she will appreciate that.

  --Inkie