@djeggnog wrote:
You are not a thorn [in] my ass, believe me.
@wasblind wrote:
Well it looks like the WatchTower is then, cause they seem to disagree with you about having the holy spirit.
Sept 15, 2010 WT Page 13 paragraph 8 States
: " Similarliy today, a Governing body composed of spirit anointed christians contributes to the unity of the world wide congregation. "You have misconstrued what the expression "spirit anointed Christians" means. It doesn't mean what you have made it out to mean. "Spirit anointed" has to do with one's heavenly calling, with God's spirit having borne witness with the spirit of those who have been called and chosen by God and adopted by Him as sons. (Romans 8:16) However, I myself am filled with holy spirit the same as are many other Jehovah's Witnesses (else it would not be possible for a Christian to grieve it!), but this expression that you fail to comprehend for whatever reason -- being "filled with holy spirit" -- doesn't imply nor does it mean that I have or anyone else has been zapped with a portion of God's holy spirit.
This expression simply means that I have been "empowered," just to use the word you quoted in a previous post from an article you had difficulty understanding in that October 1, 2010 Watchtower you mentioned, or energized by the same "power" that was given to Jesus' early disciples back in 33 AD (Acts 1:8) based on what things I have come to learn from having studied God's word, the Bible, except that the gifts of the spirit that those early disciples were given I was not given, nor have those spirit anointed Christians to whom the September 15, 2010 Watchtower article you quoted refers, been given such spiritual gifts since those passed away, ceased, when the last of Jesus' apostles, John, died. (1 Corinthians 13:8)
@djeggnog wrote:
Put another way, @wasblind, you have twisted what you read in our literature so that our literature only says to you something that it really doesn't say at all to those that do not have the reading comprehension problem that you evidently have. What is more, you think you are right when you are not right. I don't believe you are an idiot, but in forming the conclusion that you have reached as to what Jehovah's Witnesses mean when we say that we are led by holy spirit or that we are led by God's spirit, or even that we have God's holy spirit, what you are saying is idiotic, for what we mean is that we are observing God's word in our lives and subjecting ourselves to the spiritual guidance that Jehovah provides to us in the Bible and nothing more.
Jehovah's Witnesses have never said nor would be ever say that we are zapped with God's holy spirit. Now you might say this, @wasblind, and you are certainly free to say whatever it is you want to say, but it doesn't really matter what you say since you are no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses. In saying these things, you did make all of this up.
@wasblind wrote:
you see DJ, they claim to be all of the above. it is well documented through out their literature that they claim to be led, empowered, guided, and anointed but you say they are not. we agree with you , THEY AIN'T !!!!!!
feel free to repeat after me, Governing Body= False Prophets
If I could get you to provide proof of just one prediction that Jehovah's Witnesses have made -- not someone in your local congregation, for example, that might have been preaching 1975 as the year when Armageddon was going to occur, but something officially published by Jehovah's Witnesses in one of our publications -- then we could discuss whether or not Jehovah's Witnesses or the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses are false prophets, but I am one of Jehovah's Witnesses and I am myself a prophet of God, not a false prophet, but not a prophet in the sense of someone that has the innate ability to predict future events. I'm a prophet in the sense that Jesus did give gifts in men "for ministerial work." (Ephesians 4:8, 11, 12)
When Jesus founded the Christian congregation, it was a prophetical organization with Christian prophets that would preach God's word and prophesy about God's kingdom to anyone that would listen, and those that took a different message to folks were called false prophets in that what things they preached were not things that God's word stated. The point I wish to make in this post, @wasblind, is this: Neither Jehovah's Witnesses nor the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses are false prophets, but you are free to believe what you wish. In fact, I have no doubt that you will believe exactly what you wish to believe.
If you should speak contrary to what God's word says, you would thereby be identifying yourself as a false prophet. I have observed another problem about you though: I believe you have a reading comprehension problem.
@djeggnog
