Christianity Refutes Itself.
by whereami 15 Replies latest jw friends
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BurnTheShips
Can't see the video. What does it say that makes Christianity refute itself?
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BurnTheShips
As I said, I can't see the video. Please tell us the arguments presented therein that show Christanity refuting itself.
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moshe
John 17:20-23
Jesus said we could identify his true followers, becase they would be "one"- the video claims this is not the case as Jesus' followers are divided into 38,000 sects.
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darth frosty
Vid quotes john 17 jesus prayer that god bless his disciples to be 1 as he and gof are one. than narator talks about the different factions (diff baptist and etc etc.)
Than narator says how xtians are not 1. While I agree narator comes off condecending.
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BurnTheShips
Jesus said we could identify his true followers, becase they would be "one"- the video claims this is not the case as Jesus' followers are divided into 38,000 sects.
Organizational fragmentation is not necessarily spiritual disunity. Additionally, organizational fragmentation does not logically mean that there would not be one "true" organization in there, somewhere. I'm not asserting that there is, but the logic does not seem to follow.
However, Jesus also said love would identify his true followers. No sectarian definition is needed, there.
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DanaBug
He also argues that John 17 says I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message, 21 that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me.
Since Christians aren't one, does this disproove that God sent Jesus? And it's not just the different sects, it's the different beliefs about Jesus (God, God's son), God (trinity, one true God) taken from the Bible.
Personally, I think all religions are just different paths up the same mountain, the view's the same when you get to the top.
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tec
Since Christians aren't one, does this disproove that God sent Jesus?
No. But the appearance of that could be a reason that the world has a hard time believing that God sent Jesus. However, I also agree with Burns... love identifies His followers, not doctrinal unity.
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Satanus
There you have it folks, even though those different strains of christianity have killed each other in wars, even though they argue about doctrine and condemn each other and fight, they are still one, because they have love.
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