Father of the Lie

by elder-schmelder 42 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • sabastious
    sabastious

    Lore, the fact that the translations are so different is highly disconcerting. It almost makes this whole debate a wash, imo.

    -Sab

  • ProdigalSon
    ProdigalSon

    What if Satan is just a metaphor for something we all have inside that we have to get rid of? Maybe this why God hasn't squished him under his thumb? We would all be squished.

    ~PS

  • sabastious
    sabastious
    What if Satan is just a metaphor for something we all have inside that we have to get rid of? Maybe this why God hasn't squished him under his thumb? We would all be squished.

    If Satan is a metaphor, then explain the account of Jesus being tempted? He was being tempted by a metaphor?

    He was being tempted by himself? Was Jesus Edward Nortan and Satan Brad Pitt from Fightclub?

    -Sab

  • ProdigalSon
    ProdigalSon

    And if we all have God within, then God would have to squish himself.....

    ...just sayin'......

  • ProdigalSon
    ProdigalSon

    Ummm, maybe Jesus and us are really one?

    just sayin....

  • ProdigalSon
    ProdigalSon

    I think the Bible was written to help us with internal battles and we put everything on a world level outside of ourselves....

  • ProdigalSon
    ProdigalSon

    Just to take the thought a little further, if there were no people, would there be a Devil? Where might he live outside of human consciousness?

  • sabastious
    sabastious
    I think the Bible was written to help us with internal battles and we put everything on a world level outside of ourselves....

    Like if we are ever wrestling with the decision to commit infanticide or not to commit infanticide, the Bible account of the 10 plagues should lead us in the right direction.

    -Sab

  • PSacramento
    PSacramento

    You will find that it says: "In the day that you eat from it" (Or 'in the very day' or 'on that day')

    Leo may be able to shed a light on that, but I THINK that the way it works in Hebrew is that "very day" referres to the day they EAT not that on that day they die.

    In other words, on the day they eat of the food, their life as they know it ( life for all intents and purposes) will be over.

  • Lore
    Lore
    "Leo may be able to shed a light on that, but I THINK that the way it works in Hebrew is that "very day" referres to the day they EAT not that on that day they die.

    In other words, on the day they eat of the food, their life as they know it ( life for all intents and purposes) will be over."

    OK.

    But then while we're twisting what people say to make it seem more truthful why don't we assume that Satan was ALSO being all figurative and evasive.

    When he said they wouldn't die, he meant that they would 'live on' in our memories and be remembered forever.

    The fact that we are still talking about them right now proves how truthful Satan was.

    They are 'immortalized' in history.

    Hey if you can do it for god I can do it for satan!

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