Finally have some time to respond to this thread ! Thanks for all the different responses ! Serious AND comical replies. It keeps things interesting.
ITSACULT- Yes, indeed- it IS too much information that the WT society tries to get access to regarding it's members !
TWINKLE TOES- Your experience is probably a very common one actually. I've heard of elders trying to get the goods on JW members, they tried getting me too ! Maybe your then boyfriend DID have a T.V. with a woman's voice talking ! LOL ! I bet it did make you wonder a little bit. I'm glad you got your freedom and got out of this stalking cult.
FARKEL- Hey guy, nice hearing from you ! How are you ? In regards to your question about the Bible saying that titties are a horrible thing - I don't believe there is ANY reference about titties being a horrible thing quite honestly ! LOL ! The Song of Solomon talks a lot about clutching the shulamite's breast's etc, didn't the Proverbs or something say that fire can be raked up into the breasts ? Nothing like " hot breasts " on fire ! Although I think it's figuratively talking about passion. But THAT'S a good thing too. No negative connotation there. Personally- I always felt Freddie Franz was from planet Neptune to be quite honest. Spoke an alien language which NO one could understand. My 2 cents. Since I don't believe in the Bible - I believe normal sex is fine between unmarried people. If there is a God - He's got better things to do than worrying over whether people are boinking or not.
AGONUS- Exactly. WT society never goes beyond the things written by themselves. But sometimes they DO ! Like the " generation overlap " revamping of the last days . They always seem to be changing.
SABASTIOUS- My name is Flipper, sometimes I am a glutton as well. We make up a large gluttonous army !
JWGONEBAD- Bring on a committee ! I'll stare them down with my x-ray eyes ! I have spiritual powers they know nothing of ! LOL !
NATHAN NATAS- Yeah, I've heard of the dry humping thing though. But a person can get rug burns on private areas though. Skin is definitely much softer. Don't want any chafing.
WILL_THE_APOSTATE - Glutton AND porneia, eh ? Sounds like you will keep the elders busy !
HADIT- Good points you make ! How can a person " manipulate " sex organs without " casually touching " them ? Perhaps the GB is thinking that if people use sex toys- they aren't REALLY touching their sex organs ! Only thing I can think that they mean. But a person STILL has to touch the sex toy, don't they ? The counsel elders get on rape is sick for sure. Definitely mind control.
OTWO- You aren't trying to use a pun are you saying the WT society " mistrusts the members " - are you ? Oh- I get it, you mean they mistrust the individual witnesses . Now I've got it straight. Yes, it's awful how they treat with suscpicion a woman who gets raped. Ridiculous. You have it right- WT society needs to STOP infiltrating people's personal lives and needs to allow members breathing room. But they won't. THey are into ultimate control of JW's.
STREETS 76- It is amazing that Russells, Rutherfords, & Knorr, & Fred Franz's teachings are basically null and void now. The alleged " light " just keeps spinning around into oblivion.
CLEARPOISON- Yeah, I hear you - I used to get excited as a teenager with all my clothes on making out with young lady's. So, it's possible. But naked is better ! LOL !
BLUESBROTHER- I was thinking the same thing you mentioned when reading about this gluttony thing. How uncaring and insensitive of the WT society to not consider young women who may suffer from annorexia or bullimia ! Typical WT society- people don't matter.
STRAIGHTSHOOTER- I agree with you. How intrusive can elders be to DF someone for physical uncleanness. Is it gonna be a strip search like they do for boarding airliners ? Jeez. I can just picture elders giving a white glove treatment with a washcloth on someone's body at a JC. I mean, it gets to the point of PAST ridiculous