With the latest Australian Special Talk, we now have a complete picture of the Organizational Plan

by WingCommander 64 Replies latest jw friends

  • factfinder
    factfinder

    WingCommander- I agree- GB.2 will become stricter. They will crack down harder on the jw's and seek ever more glory and honor for themselves. ("Faithful and Discreet Slave Class? That is us!").

    I was considered a "bad association" for years due to missing a lot of meetings in the fridged cong. I was in. No-one ever asked me why I missed, or tried to encourage me. The few elders who ever spoke to me would say" if you love Jehovah you would come to all the meetings. Since you miss meetings you do not love Jehovah." They could not care less about my circumstances or health problems.

    I see things becoming more controlling, judgemental and oppressive in the congs. In other words, things will be as they are now...only more so!

  • ziddina
    ziddina

    Lady Lee - excellent points!!!

    I keep forgetting that, as corporations have "personalities", so also the Watchtower Corporation has a "personality" - the personality of an abuser - a batterer, a bully...

    And a coward...

    Zid

  • Scott77
    Scott77

    Wow, this thread is hot. Basically, my take is that, the GB is 'shooting itself in the foot'. Thousands of people who are less active or inactive at all, to my understanding, are the top most contributor in financial term to the WTS.

    Scott77

  • Black Sheep
    Black Sheep

    They usually publish the change in the WT first.

    This is followed by a convention talk, then it appears as a Day Text in the next yearbook.

    Even the speculations of a GB member carry no guarantee that they will make it into print and/or policy.

  • Curtains
    Curtains
    cattails said
    DoubtingBro, I heard it with my own ears, this new CO named Scott Henry said it plainly that if a person is inactive despite attempts by the BoE to reactivate him/her, then that person's name is deleted from the list of publishers in the Service Group. Plain as could be.
    This has already been put into practice after this CO's visit in this circuit in New England where I'm at now. Quite a few names have disappeared from the list posted on the information board.
    This list will now serve as a reference for JWs not only of who is an "active publisher" but also of who is "good association" and who isn't.

    wow at what is happening at cattails' congregation - I must check our board.

  • designs
    designs

    Could be the win win for many since they won't have to go back and deal with any judicial meeting. The fade is now automated

  • Doubting Bro
    Doubting Bro

    cattails - I don't doubt for a minute that's what the CO said however it seems to contradict what the WTS has put in writing (not that it's so unusual). We don't have a list of publishers who are associated with various service groups posted where I attend, so I won't be able to check it here to see if it's a new directive or something this CO is doing on his own. Actually now that I think of it, the last 3 congregations I've attended also didn't have a list of service groups on the "information board".

    Thanks for the information. I wonder though if that means the inactive person is actually not assigned to the service group or if they are but just not listed as a publisher in the service group. That would mean technically they wouldn't have to change the direction that I quoted yet could still inform the rest of the congregation who is inactive and who is not. Most are aware anyway.

    I still don't think they're going to implement institutionalized shunning for inactive the way that it's done for DA or DF but rather leave it the way it is which means zealous JWs typically avoid socializing with fringe JWs.

    Guess we'll have to wait and see.

  • sir82
    sir82
    this new CO named Scott Henry said it plainly that if a person is inactive despite attempts by the BoE to reactivate him/her, then that person's name is deleted from the list of publishers in the Service Group.

    This is nothing new.

    If a person is inactive, whay assign him to a service group? Service groups are for, um, field service, and if someone is inactive, he doesn't go out in field service.

    There is no congregation announcement made, however, and enforced shunning is not in place.

    HOWEVER...there may well be explicit & implicit warnings from the platform about the dangers of "bad association" and reminders to stick with those who are "spiritually strong" and so on.

    Virtual shunning, at least by those who are worried about their positions of power and/or prestige, would most likely take place.

  • leavingwt
    leavingwt
    Virtual shunning, at least by those who are worried about their positions of power and/or prestige, would most likely take place.

    Yes, and this has always been the case. The spiritual clique in the KH does not spend large amounts of time with "low-hour publishers", nor do they repeatedly socialize with them.

    However, and this is important -- if these persons walk into the Kingdom Hall, even if they are (gasp) INACTIVE, they will be greeted, spoken to, etc. DF'd and DA'd people are avoided like the plague.

  • isaacaustin
    isaacaustin

    This is how I see as well Leavingwt and Sir82...reinteration and reinforcement of current practices.

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