Congresswoman Shot in Tucson

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  • lisaBObeesa
    lisaBObeesa

    Chicago Sun Times

    Sheriff Clarence Dupnik

    The sheriff pointed to the vitriolic political rhetoric that has consumed the country as he denounced the shooting that claimed several of his friends as victims, including U.S. District Judge John Roll. The judge celebrated Mass on Saturday morning like he does every day before stopping by to say hello to his good friend Giffords.
    “When you look at unbalanced people, how they respond to the vitriol that comes out of certain mouths about tearing down the government. The anger, the hatred, the bigotry that goes on in this country is getting to be outrageous,” the sheriff said. “And unfortunately, Arizona I think has become the capital. We have become the mecca for prejudice and bigotry.”
  • lisaBObeesa
    lisaBObeesa

    More from the Sheriff:

    DUPNIK: Let me just say one thing, because people tend to poo-poo this business about all the vitriole that we hear inflaming the American public by people who make a living off of doing that. That may be free speech. But it's not without consequences.

    REPORTER: How do you know that that's what caused it.

    DUPNIK: You don't

  • Justitia Themis
    Justitia Themis

    The judge has been under police protection because of threats since ruling against Arizona's immigration law. Arizona's Brewer and McCain have created a toxic, churning mass of politcal hatred in that state in order to win re-election.

    Sometimes, rumors of violence beget actual violence. Saturday's mass shooting at a Safeway on North Oracle Road in Tucson, which left Democratic Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords in critical condition and at least nine others wounded, may well be one of those occasions.

    It's impossible to know this early what the motivations for the attack were. Was the alleged shooter — who, according to the AP, has been identified as man in his 20s named Jared Loughner — angry about immigration? Or perhaps another hot-button issue? Last March, at the height of the health care reform battle, Giffords' office was vandalized. She mentioned in an MSNBC interview that a Sarah Palin mailer had depicted her district in the crosshair of a gun sight. "They've got to realize there are consequences to that," she said. "The rhetoric is incredibly heated." The corner next to her office had also become, she said, a popular spot for Tea Party protests. (See "40 Under 40: The Rising Stars of American Politics.")

    Another shooting victim, a federal judge named John Roll, had been placed under 24-hour security in 2009 after ruling in favor of illegal immigrants in a high-profile case. It's unclear why he was at the supermarket event or whether the gunman was targeting him or Giffords. But for almost a year now, Arizona politicians have been grappling with anti-immigration sentiments, inflamed by reports of crossborder violence. National media attention, with its attendant voices of hysteria, only added to the churn. Pundits spoke gravely about a wave of violence, born in Mexico and now flooding Arizona. Arizona's two most famous politicians fueled the fury.Republican Senator John McCain, facing an unexpected reelection challenge from the right, ran a campaign obsessed with crossborder crime. And GOP Governor Jan Brewer, who invited the national spotlight by championing strict anti-illegal immigrant legislation, talked of beheadings in the desert.

    The only problem with all this talk about a massive crossborder crime wave is that it wasn't true. Phoenix had not become one of the world's kidnapping capitals. Crime rates in Arizona had been steady or even fallen in some areas. There had been no beheadings in the desert. There were plenty of deaths there, but they were pathetic and meek tragedies: impoverished border-crossers, abandoned by their heartless guides, dying of exposure and dehydration. (See the top 10 American political prodigies.)

    But the idea of a state under siege took hold. When I was on the border last year reporting on the murder of rancher Rob Krentz, I talked to many who sincerely believed that they were under attack. Krentz's murder was a terrible event, but it was an isolated event. The relatively small number of home invasions, holdups and other crimes deeply disturbed border communities, but only because they had been living in such calm for so long. Their crime rates still don't match most cities in the states.

    The supermarket meet-and-greet where Giffords was shot was actually a testimony to just how safe southern Arizona is. As a press release from her office last week put it, "'Congress on Your Corner' allows residents of Arizona's 8th Congressional District to meet their congresswoman one-on-one and discuss with her any issue, concern or problem involving the federal government." Not exactly the kind of event a politician would hold in a war zone.

    It's true that Giffords was not a fan of the state's anti-immigration bill SB1070, but there were higher-profile opponents, such as her fellow Congressional Representative in Tuscon, Raul Grijalva. Yet the idea that Arizona is under attack has been pushed hard enough that it's very possible that whichever coward shot her (in the head, according to a Tucson paper) believed that the 40-year-old Democrat, who had been tarred by some as soft on immigration because she didn't support SB1070, was contributing to larger-scale violence against Arizonans. (Comment on this story.)

    If that is the case, it would only add to the tragedy. The fact is, that among all the overwrought promises and all the panic I heard last summer in Arizona, I found that Giffords was one of the few politicians offering concrete law enforcement steps that would actually work against the drug cartels and other smugglers. It's not just that she fought for more money and police for border protection, although she did that. She co-sponsored legislation last year with a California Republican that aimed to give law enforcement important new tools in cracking down on the cash cards that were a favored methods of money-laundering. It was one of the many sensible, pragmatic ideas she had for cracking down on crime.

    Whatever dark fantasies drove someone to try to take her life, Giffords is a sensible politician who was likely shot because she dealt with Arizona's reality, not its rumors.



    Read more: http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2041408,00.html#ixzz1AV6p8ZHV

  • leavingwt
    leavingwt

    Ezra Klein:

    Loughner's statements were clearly insane, and though his ravings contained some political content, it is not political content that either side of the spectrum would easily recognize as their own. "I'm able to control every belief and religion by being the mind-controller" does not appear in the platforms of either party, for instance.

    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2011/01/some_thoughts_on_the_shooting.html

  • leavingwt
    leavingwt

    Jeff Kaye:

    I would caution against implying any politics to someone who appears so disturbed, as his interpretation of political symbols and phrases are interpreted in a highly idiosyncratic and irrational way. However, if he were susceptible to violence, then the targets available by the given society, i.e., the rhetoric out there in the society, would have pointed him towards liberals, leftists, Muslims, or other minorities, and that kind of rhetoric has mainly been from the right-wing, as has been copiously commented upon.

    As for whether such a person could be manipulated, it’s possible, but if he is as insane as he appears, he would have been a very unstable person upon which to base any such conspiracy. I tend to think, despite his talk about mind control and brainwashing, that he was not the subject of any such conspiracy. More likely, these concerns are more about such an individuals anxieties and paranoia about being controlled from without, about things outside himself threatening to invade his personal world. Concern with brainwashing is a common thread in narratives from schizophrenic individuals.

    http://my.firedoglake.com/valtin/2011/01/08/jared-loughners-possible-mental-illness/

  • JeffT
    JeffT

    On this twitter account http://twitter.com/caitieparker some one who knew him at school says he was unstable, but his politics seemed liberal.

    I think this one is going to come down to insanity more than politics.

    And I'm no fan of Palin.

  • beksbks
    beksbks
    Why do people make this horrible incident political it is tragic people died and we are acting as if Sara Palin had something to do with it...

    The shooter made it political when he targeted a United States Congressperson. People in the public eye (particularly government) need to realize they have a responsibility to refrain from inciting violence. The right wing talk machine has been spewing hate and violence for years. They need to be put on the hot seat for it.

  • beksbks
    beksbks

    He could be a damn communist for all I care, the climate of violence and fear mongering urgency can be laid directly at the feet of the right wing media and politicians.

  • lisaBObeesa
    lisaBObeesa

    Insane people are more vulnerable to suggestion, insane people are the ones most likely to actually take action based on the angry, hate-filled rhetoric they hear. This whole thing was foreseen by many. It was only a matter of time before some nut started shooting at those (democrats) that have been painted as enemies of America by folks like Palin and Beck.

  • tenyearsafter
    tenyearsafter

    Justitia Themis,

    I am not trying to be obtuse...and I am not agreeing with The Palin tactic...what I am saying is that to say Ms. Palin or the "Right" are responsible for this is stretching credibility. What was done is inexcusable, and I wish the Congresswoman and other victims of this idiot my sympathy and best wishes for recovery.

    I don't agree with your examples of Menachem Begin (I don't believe he was assasinated...you are probably thinking of Rabin) or Bhutto (her own rhetoric drew the ire of the radical Islamist who killed her).

    Nonetheless, polarizing speech is never useful in trying to bring people together or "preach" a particular viewpoint. This should be a no-brainer for those of us who lived and participated in the "rhetoric" of the WTS to grasp!

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