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acolytes

Psacramento

Thanks for the answer.

Do you think we were created by the lord god of the o/t.?

Do you think this god as outlined in my above post, fits a homisidal,lying maniac who has limited knowledge and no love or respect for humun life?

Is it possible the worship of our creator is the worship of satan?

Could Jesus be the serpent in Genesis?

Is the God who created the earth the same God who created man?

When someone is 1oo% right they are fernatic, 75% right wise, 5o% right no thermal and 0% right fernatic. As a J/W i have learnt it was close to 0% right. Now iam no so sure on anything but I like finding the questions as oppossed to finding answers.

Acolytes

PSacramento

Thanks for the answer.

Welcome.

Do you think we were created by the lord god of the o/t.?

I think that God created the universe and that we evolved as part of the universe and that God is BEST repesented by the NT.

Do you think this god as outlined in my above post, fits a homisidal,lying maniac who has limited knowledge and no love or respect for humun life?

Asoutlined BY YOUR POST, I agree.

Is it possible the worship of our creator is the worship of satan?

Nope, see above.

Could Jesus be the serpent in Genesis?

Nope.

Is the God who created the earth the same God who created man?

Yep.

When someone is 1oo% right they are fernatic, 75% right wise, 5o% right no thermal and 0% right fernatic. As a J/W i have learnt it was close to 0% right. Now iam no so sure on anything but I like finding the questions as oppossed to finding answers.

I love questions because they are the only way we find answers.

acolytes

Psacremento

Thanks for the answers.

I hope you wont take this as rude. But your answers were very yes or no. Was their not a shadow of maybe in your answers. I would very an elaberation to your answers as maybe i will learn from your more detailed comments.

Acolytes

PSacramento

I hope you wont take this as rude. But your answers were very yes or no. Was their not a shadow of maybe in your answers. I would very an elaberation to your answers as maybe i will learn from your more detailed comments.

Since I post from work, there are times I have time for a long winded answer and other times that I don't :)

Sorry I didn't go into too much depth but allow me to say this:

My preconceived notion ( and we all have them) in rgeards to God and Jesus is this:

God is Love and eternal and uncondtional force of love, best personified in his only Son, Jesus.

I base everything on THAT notion, including how I interpret the bible and what I view as correct, muddled, incorrect and a corruption.

Yes, I am plainly stating that I AM interpreting the bible on my SOLE AUTHORITY *gasp* !

I do this based not only on the preconceived notion of what God and Jesus are, BUT also on research that I do, I not only study the bible, but the history of it, the writings of those that came after and the writings of modern day scholars AND critics.

How can I do this? how can I claim authority to "judge" what is written in the bible?

Well, heck cuz, it's MY salvation and I'll be damned if I put that responsibility on anyone other than myself.

VoidEater

For God loved Lot so much He gave him his own daughters to continue the blood line.

Well, yeah, actually that is exactly like my JW family.

tec

Acolytes, I hope you don't mind my answering those questions, too?

Do you think we were created by the lord god of the o/t.?

I think we were created by the Father of Christ. You can find Him in the OT, if you're looking through what Christ showed us. But you can also find mistakes written and understood about Him... one of the reasons Christ came to show us the Father as He truly is.

Do you think this god as outlined in my above post, fits a homisidal,lying maniac who has limited knowledge and no love or respect for humun life?

I think your above post's description of God fits the often misunderstood/mistranslation of the people writing about God... also the times were far different then, and we rarely take into account just how much went into the survival of a people, much less a single person. You have to look through Christ to see God.

Is it possible the worship of our creator is the worship of satan?

No. A misunderstanding of God, perhaps, because people are not looking through Christ - as stated above.

Could Jesus be the serpent in Genesis?

The serpent as in Satan, no. The tree of life, yes.

Is the God who created the earth the same God who created man?

I believe so, yes. I know that there is a switch between 'God' and 'LORD GOD (YHWH)' between the two accounts, but there are alternate reasons for this: could just be because the second is such a personal account, directly with people (Adam/Eve). Could even have been a couple of different writers - but I don't know what scholars say about that.

Tammy

PSacramento

For God loved Lot so much He gave him his own daughters to continue the blood line.

Well, yeah, actually that is exactly like my JW family.

Uh...that seems to be insinuating that your sisters got your dad drunk and had sex with him....

acolytes

psacremenro and tec thanks for your comments.

Tyu,,,thanks for allowing me to use your thread to debate on.

Acolytes

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

Anyone that has actually read the Bible will notice that there is no continuity between Genesis chap 1 and chap 2. Chapter 1 says that plants were created before animals and animals before humans. Suddenly in chap 2 man is created, then plants are created, then animals are created and brought to the man for naming. Of course, Watchtower Corporation explains that the narration of chap 2 isn't to be taken literally, it's "figurative". The problem is that the chap 2 narration leads directly into the story of the naked lady and talking snake that must be taken literally, although it's part of a story that is only figurative.

tec

Billy, in the Adam/Eve story, my bible says that god had formed all the beasts of the field and bird of the air. As in already had done it, before he brought them to Adam. Same with the garden... it had been planted, before... and then Adam was placed in it.

Just an observation.

Of course, I don't take this as a literal garden or literal trees, myself, but as an easier to understand story told to in such a way as to share the truths within it, that the people it was given to could understand. Even Christ said he could not speak to the people of spiritual things, because they did not even understand physical things.

Tammy

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