New light on reporting child molestors...

by Snoozy 28 Replies latest watchtower child-abuse

  • Snoozy
    Snoozy

    I have a few witnesses on my facebook so I thought "Why not"..

    I posted this article on America's most wanted that featured Frederick McLean..the JW child molestor..been on the run since 2004.

    http://www.amw.com/fugitives/case.cfm?id=35566

    So I comment on how I though they caught this guy but I guess they didn't as it was updated in Dec.

    So the JW gal I know in Australia ( I knew the family when they were in the states) replies to the post. She comments with this..:

    "It shouldn't be surprising that wickedness can infest anyplace. Even angels proved disloyal and were dragged away from their heavenly positions to become demons.
    Recently were all told it is a Federal Offense to not report any abuse to police!
    By obeying law we respect authority. God gave humans judicial law to be used because unlike him we cannot read hearts.

    Jehovah wants our loyalty but has no need of us to cover over our sins to protect him. "

    I so wanted to ask her why Jehovah took so long deciding that he didn't need us (the JW's) to cover our sins to protect him anymore?

    And I wanted to say a lot more but didn't..

    I merely said that that was a good thing and hoped ALL congregations would follow it.

    Interesting having witnesses on your page... You do have to be a little careful of what is posted though..but you can be subtle and still not come across so apostate like (even tho she knows I quit going) and still make a point..

  • Snoozy
    Snoozy

    Her next post after my reply:

    " Well it was a special talk on Wednesday night, all congregations here.Any breaking of the law, unreported, technically would make one an accesory yes?
    No one is perfect whether you lie or steal a paper clip all sin. There are just really evil ppl in every walk of life that a deceptive snakes. That is their trick, to weasel their way into trust. Are prisons full of atheists, or just hypocrites?"

    I replied that I heard there were no hypocrites in prison that they had all found Jesus..

    Snoozy

  • carla
    carla

    Me & my jw were having a discussion on those who murder (particularly in schools,etc..) and I said he should look into a certain recent (attempted) murder spree an check out THAT guy..... in our language that means the guy was a jw. He knew exactly what I meant and said that nut cases can occur and do occur in all populations. Translation for our weird non/jw speak- yes, that guy may have been a jw but do you give that guy the same considerations to being a nut case as you do the general population.

    As for the idea that there are no atheists in fox holes, so to speak, yes there are.

    jw's like to believe that anybody who commits a crime is not a 'real' jw. Well, if it quacks like a duck......

  • jamiebowers
    jamiebowers

    It seems your Facebook friend is mistaken, unless her entire country makes it mandatory to report child molestors. If I remember correctly, the new elder's manual continues to advise elders to contact authorities IF it is mandated by law.

  • Snoozy
    Snoozy

    jamie , she said it was announced at their Wednesday meeting supposedly at all the KH's. Not sure what the policy is in Australia. Maybe some of our Australian posters could find out for us? I will check the internet.

    She WAS molested ( sexually fondled) by a man that was studying..when she was around 5. Nothing was done. Her jw mom was told to pray to Jah for help. The brothers told her to pray. Even tho there was another witness!

    She has reason to NOT lie..

    It could be she misunderstood the announcement or possibly the KH's there are smaller and a little more conscious of what is right?

    I give her the benefit of doubt for being truthful and honest. I knew them a long time before they moved and I consider them one of the better/more truthful JW's..

    Snoozy

  • Snoozy
    Snoozy

    The ones under mandatory laws on child abuse in Australia as of 8/10 are:

    http://www.nifs.gov.au/nch/pubs/sheets/rs3/rs3.html (see next post)

    I just skimmed it but I didn't see anything about the clergy..I'll check it again. I have posted it on my page hoping she will see it and comment. WE shall see..

    Is child abuse reporting mandatory in Australia or is this something put out from the WTBTS or something the brothers just decided to announce?

    Snoozy

  • Snoozy
    Snoozy

    Resource Sheet Updated August 2010

    Mandatory reporting of child abuse

    Compiled by Daryl Higgins, Leah Bromfield, Nick Richardson, Prue Holzer and Claire Berlyn
    Published by the Australian Institute of Family Studies
    ISSN 1448-9112 (Online)

    You can access this resource sheet in HTML or PDF (274 KB) format. You will need an Acrobat Reader which is free from the Adobe Systems Web site .


    This resource sheet examines legal provisions requiring specified people to report supsected child maltreatment to statutory child protection services in Australia.

    What is mandatory reporting?

    The legal requirement to report suspected cases of child abuse and neglect is known as mandatory reporting. All jurisdictions possess mandatory reporting requirements of some description. However, the people mandated to report and the abuse types for which it is mandatory to report vary across Australian states and territories.

    Who is mandated to make a notification?

    The groups of people mandated to notify their concerns, suspicions or beliefs to the appropriate statutory child protection authority range from a limited number of specified persons in specified contexts (Queensland) through to every adult (Northern Territory).

    The relevant Acts and Regulations in the Australian Capital Territory, New South Wales, Queensland, South Australia, Tasmania, Victoria and Western Australia contain lists of particular occupations that are mandated to report. Some states have a limited number of occupations listed, such as Queensland (doctors, departmental officers, and employees of licensed residential care services) and Victoria (police, doctors, nurses and teachers). Other jurisdictions have more extensive lists (Australian Capital Territory, South Australia, Tasmania) or use generic descriptions such as "professionals working with children".

    Many commentators have suggested that Western Australia is the only Australian jurisdiction without mandatory reporting requirements. However, Western Australia does possess targeted legislative requirements for the reporting of child abuse. Court personnel, counsellors and mediators are required to report allegations or suspicions of child abuse in Family Court cases, and licensed providers of child care or outside-school-hours care services are required to report abuse in a child care service. From January 1 2009, the legislation covering mandatory reporting of child sexual abuse in the Children and Community Services Amendment (Reporting Sexual Abuse of Children) Act 2008 became part of the Children and Community Services Act 2004. This extended mandatory reporting requirements to doctors, nurses, midwives, police officers and teachers in circumstances where they have reasonable grounds to believe that a child has been, or is, the subject of sexual abuse.

    Table 1 provides an overview of who is legally mandated to report suspected child maltreatment to statutory child protection services in each state and territory.

    Table 1: Mandatory reporting requirements across Australia*

    Who is mandated to notify?

    What is to be notified?

    Maltreatment types for which it is mandatory to report

    Relevant sections of the Act/Regulations

    ACT

    A person who is: a doctor; a dentist; a nurse; an enrolled nurse; a midwife; a teacher at a school; a person providing education to a child or young person who is registered, or provisionally registered, for home education under the Education Act 2004; a police officer; a person employed to counsel children or young people at a school; a person caring for a child at a child care centre; a person coordinating or monitoring home-based care for a family day care scheme proprietor; a public servant who, in the course of employment as a public servant, works with, or provides services personally to, children and young people or families; the public advocate; an official visitor; a person who, in the course of the person's employment, has contact with or provides services to children, young people and their families and is prescribed by regulation

    A belief, on reasonable grounds, that a child or young person has experienced or is experiencing sexual abuse or non-accidental physical injury; and

    the belief arises from information obtained by the person during the course of, or because of, the person's work (whether paid or unpaid)

    Physical abuse

    Sexual abuse

    Section 356 of the Children and Young People Act 2008 (ACT)

    NSW

    A person who, in the course of his or her professional work or other paid employment delivers health care, welfare, education, children's services, residential services or law enforcement, wholly or partly, to children; and

    a person who holds a management position in an organisation, the duties of which include direct responsibility for, or direct supervision of, the provision of health care, welfare, education, children's services, residential services or law enforcement, wholly or partly, to children

    Reasonable grounds to suspect that a child is at risk of significant harm; and

    those grounds arise during the course of or from the person's work

    Physical abuse

    Sexual abuse

    Emotional/psychological abuse

    Neglect

    Exposure to family violence

    Sections 23 and 27 of the Children and Young Persons (Care and Protection) Act 1998 (NSW)

    NT

    Any person with reasonable grounds

    A belief on reasonable grounds that a child has been or is likely to be a victim of a sexual offence; or otherwise has suffered or is likely to suffer harm or exploitation

    Physical abuse

    Sexual abuse

    Emotional/psychological abuse

    Neglect

    Exposure to physical violence (e.g., a child witnessing violence between parents at home)

    Sections 15 and 26 of the Care and Protection of Children Act 2007 (NT)

    Registered health professionals

    Reasonable grounds to believe a child aged 14 or 15 years has been or is likely to be a victim of a sexual offence and the age difference between the child and offender is greater than 2 years

    Sexual abuse

    Section 26 of the Care and Protection of Children Act 2007 (NT)

    Qld

    An authorised officer, employee of the Department of Communities (Child Safety Services), a person employed in a departmental care service or licensed care service

    Awareness or reasonable suspicion of harm caused to a child placed in the care of an entity conducting a departmental care service or a licensee

    Physical abuse

    Sexual abuse or exploitation

    Emotional/psychological abuse

    Neglect

    Section 148 of the Child Protection Act 1999 (Qld)

    A doctor or registered nurse (Public Health Act 2005, s158)

    Awareness or reasonable suspicion during the practice of his or her profession of harm or risk of harm

    Sections 191-192 and 158 of the Public Health Act 2005 (Qld)

    The Commissioner for Children and Young People

    A child who is in need of protection under s10 of the Child Protection Act (i.e. has suffered or is at unacceptable risk of suffering harm and does not have a parent able and willing to protect them)

    Section 20 of the Commission for Children Young People and Child Guardian Act 2000 (Qld)

    SA

    Doctors; pharmacists; registered or enrolled nurses; dentists; psychologists; police officers; community corrections officers; social workers; teachers; family day care providers; employees/volunteers in a government department, agency or instrumentality, or a local government or non-government agency that provides health, welfare, education, sporting or recreational, child care or residential services wholly or partly for children; ministers of religion (with the exception of disclosures made in the confessional); employees or volunteers in a religious or spiritual organisations

    Reasonable grounds that a child has been or is being abused or neglected; and

    the suspicion is formed in the course of the person's work (whether paid or voluntary) or carrying out official duties

    Physical abuse

    Sexual abuse

    Emotional/psychological abuse

    Neglect

    Section 11 of the Children's Protection Act 1993 (SA)

    Tas.

    Registered medical practitioners; nurses; dentists, dental therapists or dental hygienists; registered psychologists; police officers; probation officers; principals and teachers in any educational institution; persons who provide child care or a child care service for fee or reward; persons concerned in the management of a child care service licensed under the Child Care Act 2001; any other person who is employed or engaged as an employee for, of, or in, or who is a volunteer in, a government agency that provides health, welfare, education, child care or residential services wholly or partly for children, and an organisation that receives any funding from the Crown for the provision of such services; and any other person of a class determined by the Minister by notice in the Gazette to be prescribed persons

    A belief, suspicion, reasonable grounds or knowledge that:

    a child has been or is being abused or neglected or is an affected child within the meaning of the Family Violence Act 2004; or

    there is a reasonable likelihood of a child being killed or abused or neglected by a person with whom the child resides

    Physical abuse

    Sexual abuse

    Emotional/psychological abuse

    Neglect

    Exposure to family violence

    Sections 13 and 14 of the Children, Young Persons and Their Families Act 1997 (Tas.)

    Vic.

    Registered medical practitioners, registered nurses, a person registered as a teacher under the Education, Training and Reform Act 2006 or teachers granted permission to teach under that Act, principals of government or non-government schools, and members of the police force

    Belief on reasonable grounds that a child is in need of protection on a ground referred to in Section 162(c) or 162(d), formed in the course of practising his or her office, position or employment

    Physical abuse

    Sexual abuse

    Sections 182(1) a-e, 184 and 162 c-d of the Children, Youth and Families Act 2005 (Vic.)

    WA

    Court personnel; family counsellors; family dispute resolution practitioners, arbitrators or legal practitioners representing the child's interests

    Reasonable grounds for suspecting that a child has been: abused, or is at risk of being abused; ill treated, or is at risk of being ill treated; or exposed or subjected to behaviour that psychologically harms the child.

    Physical abuse

    Sexual abuse

    Emotional/psychological abuse

    Neglect

    Section 160 of the Western Australia Family Court Act 1997 (WA);

    Licensed providers of child care or outside-school-hours care services

    Allegations of abuse, neglect or assault, including sexual assault, of an enrolled child during a care session

    Physical abuse

    Sexual abuse

    Neglect

    Regulation 20 of the Child Care Services Regulations 2006; Regulation 19 of the Child Care Services (Family Day Care) Regulations 2006; Regulation 20 of the Child Care Services (Outside School Hours Family Day Care) Regulations 2006; Regulation 21 of the Child Care Services (Outside School Hours Care) Regulations 2006

    Doctors; nurses and midwives; teachers; and police officers

    Belief on reasonable grounds that child sexual abuse has occurred or is occurring

    Sexual abuse

    Section 124B of the Children and Community Services Act 2004 (WA)

    Notes: * Section 67ZA of the Family Law Act 1975 (Cth) applies to all states and territories.

    In addition to state and territory law, there are provisions within Commonwealth legislation that relate to mandatory reporting. Under the Family Law Act 1975 (Cth), personnel from the Family Court of Australia, the Federal Magistrates Court and the Family Court of Western Australia also have mandatory reporting obligations. This includes registrars, family counsellors, family dispute resolution practitioners or arbitrators, and lawyers independently representing children's interests. Section 67ZA states that when in the course of performing duties or functions, or exercising powers, the above court personnel have reasonable grounds for suspecting that a child has been abused, or is at risk of being abused, the person must, as soon as practicable, notify a prescribed child welfare authority of his or her suspicion and the basis for the suspicion (see www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/fla1975114/s67za.html).

    What types of abuse are mandated reporters required to report?

    In addition to differences across jurisdictions in the people who are mandated to report abuse concerns, there are also differences across jurisdictions in the abuse types for which it is mandatory to report. In some jurisdictions it is mandatory to report suspicions of each of the recognised abuse types (i.e., physical abuse, emotional abuse, sexual abuse and neglect), while in other jurisdictions it is mandatory to report only some of the abuse types.

    Is the identity of notifiers protected?

    In most jurisdictions (Australian Capital Territory, New South Wales, Northern Territory, South Australia, Victoria, Western Australia, Tasmania), the identity of notifiers - whether mandated or not - is explicitly protected. However, in some jurisdictions there are limits to this protection. For example, in the Northern Territory, the identity of reporters is not disclosed to families, but may be disclosed to the Family Matters Court upon request.

    About whom can notifications be made?

    Legislation in all jurisdictions except New South Wales requires mandatory reporting in relation to all young people up to the age of 18 (whether they use the terms "children" or "children and young people"). In New South Wales, the legislative grounds for intervention cover young people up to 18 years of age, but it is not mandatory to report suspicions of risk of harm in relation to young people aged 16 and 17.

    Although particular professional groups (such as psychologists) or government agencies (such as education departments in some states) may have protocols outlining the moral, ethical or professional responsibility or indeed the organisational requirement to report, they may not be officially mandated under their jurisdiction's child protection legislation. For example, in Queensland, school principals and teachers are required to report suspected abuse and neglect as per Education Queensland policy, but teachers and principals are not mandated to report under the relevant legislation. Further, in some jurisdictions, agreements between authorities can establish reporting requirements. For example, in Western Australia, there is an agreement between the Department of Health, the Department for Community Development and the Western Australia Police that requires the reporting of all children under 14 years of age with sexually transmitted infections (STI) and the reporting of children 14 and 15 years of age with a STI acquired through abuse.

    What type of concerns must be reported and to what must child protection respond?

    Mandatory reporting laws specify those conditions under which an individual is legally required to make a report to the statutory child protection service in their jurisdiction. This does not preclude an individual from making a report to the statutory child protection service if they have concerns for the safety and wellbeing of a child that do not fall within mandatory reporting requirements.

    A common assumption is that mandatory reporting requirements, the legislative grounds for intervention, and research classifications of abusive and neglectful behaviour are the same. In fact, mandatory reporting laws define the types of situations that must be reported to statutory child protection services. Legislative grounds for intervention define the circumstances and, importantly, the threshold at which the statutory child protection service is legally able to intervene to protect a child. Researchers typically focus on defining behaviours and circumstances that can be categorised as abuse and neglect. These differences arise because each description serves a different purpose; the lack of commonality does not mean that the system is failing to work as policy makers had intended.

    What are the benefits of mandatory reporting requirements?

    Mandatory reporting is considered to be a symbolic acknowledgement of the seriousness of child abuse. Mandatory reporting requirements reinforce the moral responsibility of community members to report suspected cases of child abuse and neglect. The introduction of mandatory reporting aims to overcome the reluctance of some professionals to become involved in suspected cases of child abuse by imposing a public duty to do so.

    Mandatory reporting, and the publicity associated with its introduction, has been found to increase public awareness of child abuse, both within mandated professional groups and within the community at large.

    Are there problems with the introduction of mandatory reporting?

    As the introduction of mandatory reporting requirements within a jurisdiction tends to increase the community's awareness of child abuse, in many instances it also results in a substantial increase in the number of reports being made to child protection departments. If there are inadequate resources available to the responsible department to respond to the increased demand, then the increasing number of reports may result in services being overwhelmed with cases to investigate, and lacking sufficient staffing to do so.

    In order to cope with this influx of reports, some child protection departments have increased the threshold or level of seriousness of reports that give rise to an investigation. For example, in 2010 in New South Wales the threshold for child maltreatment changed from risk of harm to risk of significant harm. When mandated people report suspected cases of child abuse or neglect, they expect the child protection department to investigate and take action regarding their report. If this does not occur, there is a risk that such people may cease to make reports in the future.

    Further details and information about mandatory reporting can be obtained from the relevant statutory child protection authority in each jurisdiction (see Table 2).

    Table 2: Statutory child protection authorities

    Jurisdiction

    Responsible authority

    ACT

    Office for Children, Youth and Family Support - Department of Disability, Housing and Community Services

    NSW

    Community Services, Department of Human Services NSW

    NT

    Children, Youth and Families - Department of Health and Families

    QLD

    Department of Communities (Child Safety Services)

    SA

    Families SA - Department of Families and Communities

    Tas.

    Child Protection - Department of Health and Human Services

    Vic.

    Child Protection and Family Services - Department of Human Services

    WA

    Department for Child Protection

    Further reading and references

    Ainsworth, F. (2002). Mandatory reporting of child abuse and neglect: Why would you want it? Developing Practice: The Child, Youth and Family Work Journal, 4, 5-8.

    Cashmore, J. (2002). Mandatory reporting: Is it the culprit? Where is the evidence? Developing Practice: The Child, Youth and Family Work Journal, 4, 9-12.

    Harries, M., & Clare, M. (2002). Mandatory reporting of child abuse: Evidence and options. Report for the Western Australian Child Protection Council. Perth: Department for Community Development.

    Holland, G. (1999). Mandatory reporting of abuse: The influence of legislation on doctors' reporting behaviour. Youth Studies Australia, 18(2), 30-36.

    Quinton, P. (1991). Mandatory reporting. Canberra: ACT Community Law Reform Committee.

    Tomison, A. (2002). Mandatory reporting: A question of theory versus practice. Developing Practice: The Child, Youth and Family Work Journal, 4, 13-17.


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  • Snoozy
    Snoozy

    You should see her latest reply!....

    I am dwelling on the negative of the religion instead of the positive..

    Jehovah didn't do this, the ones that infiltrated the organization did..

    I should dwell on the positive in the congregation..

    Blah, Blah, blah..

    Going back to finish reading her last statement/message.

    Snoozy

    ps..I really do like this family, they have always been some of my favorites from the past. But I feel they are as the ostrich..hiding their heads..denying..

    The congregation must have had a reason for announcing what they did recently..

  • truthseekeriam
    truthseekeriam

    Hi Snoozy,

    I don't think anything has changed, In the US anyways.

    Trust me, my mother would have been on the phone calling me on the way home from the meeting if that was announced at her KH. She knows the main thing that made my family leave was the molestation of our child and how badly the WTS handles these cases.

  • Snoozy
    Snoozy

    Her last reply: ( in a message not posted on page)

    "This was 2002, the talk was given after this, in all congs. I agree the ppl were treated horribly-but Jehovah didn't do it, his organization didn't do it. The bible does not approve.

    These abusers have a way of lying thru their teeth and charming with words, even as abusive husbands do. They can make anyone believe them. Of course elders can be just as gullible as anyone and will be living with the consequences themselves. Look at Eli and his horrible sons and he turned a blind eye and Jehovah struck him down for it.

    It seems to me rather than attacking a few wrong doers as the face of a group ppl ought to look at the positive qualities. Every one that points a finger has more pointing back at them. Why do they make a career of tearing down if bitter ppl have nothing better to offer in it's place. It's like someone running up and taking your dinner away because they reckon it's poison and walk away without giving you anything else to eat, then they turn back around and kick you in the guts for being hungry."

    Snoozy..

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