Interesting. Thanks for that quote.
I wonder if that just slipped through or if it is indeed what the GB now believes. Of course, I also wonder whether the GB believes ANY of it.
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Interesting. Thanks for that quote.
I wonder if that just slipped through or if it is indeed what the GB now believes. Of course, I also wonder whether the GB believes ANY of it.
MS, you have a PM.
When Freddy Franz screwed the pooch for the final time by waving the giant red flag on 1975 (a non-event by any standards) that left a gap of special
King's X time until Armageddon.
Franz believed in his own chronology. 6000 years+1000 year reign of Christ would seal the deal on a 7000 year "creative day."
Since nothing happened in 75 the unaccounted for time period________________________________________has to be inserted before the 1000 year reign of Christ.
This is why the special "Creation day of 7000 years" had to be dropped. THEY REFUTED IT THEMSELVES!!
You can't continue to teach something you yourself proved wrong!!
There was NEVER any scriptural backing for a 7000 year day in the first place. It was all guesswork.
During that lecture, Liverance said that the period between '75 and the start of the Great Trib would be the time between the Creation of Adam and Eve. Oh, that's what they missed in '75. Riiiight.
Keeping in mind that this was the first real lecture we got after two weeks of touring Bethel, I was left feeling pretty cold. Being born in 1974 myself, I didn't really care at that time about 1975. This was the first time that I really understood why so many people in 75 were pissed. I understood and agreed with them. It was the start of a lot of bullsh*t proposed as fact.
And I now know I am officially "out out" as a JW. They changed this and I had no idea. I feel like a veteren apostate! lol
For those who wonder ??????????????????????
clarity
Even tho they refer to it as eons ...they still teach 7000yrs!
In writing, clarity? This is the last reference in writing. Did I miss something?
*** w87 1/1 p. 30 Questions From Readers ***
Second, a study of the fulfillment of Bible prophecy and of our location in the stream of time strongly indicate that each of the creative days (Genesis, chapter 1) is 7,000 years long. It is understood that Christ’s reign of a thousand years will bring to a close God’s 7,000-year ‘rest day,’ the last ‘day’ of the creative week. (Revelation 20:6; Genesis 2:2, 3) Based on this reasoning, the entire creative week would be 49,000 years long.
In 30 years of time you would think that he [Adam] got to know Jehovah really well. But we can see something was lacking in his heart.
So... Adam was defective even while he was perfect. Jehovah's apparently a bit useless.
This is the latest quote I can find from Was Life Created? (2010). Funnily enough I've only noticed reading this that they have decoupled the universe and earth coming into being from the creative days. I've always assumed the two were linked. You learn something new every day....
*** lc pp. 24-26 Science and the Genesis Account ***
When Was “the Beginning”?
The Genesis account opens with the simple, powerful statement: “In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.” (Genesis 1:1) A number of Bible scholars agree that this statement describes an action separate from the creative days recounted from verse 3 onward. The implication is profound. According to the Bible’s opening words, the universe, including our planet, Earth, was in existence for an indefinite time before the creative days began.
Geologists estimate that the earth is 4 billion years old, and astronomers calculate that the universe may be as much as 15 billion years old. Do these findings—or their potential future refinements—contradict Genesis 1:1? No. The Bible does not specify the actual age of “the heavens and the earth.” Science is not at odds with the Biblical text.
How Long Were the Creative Days?
What about the length of the creative days? Were they literally 24 hours long? Some claim that because Moses—the writer of Genesis—later referred to the day that followed the six creative days as a model for the weekly Sabbath, each of the creative days must be literally 24 hours long. (Exodus 20:11) Does the wording of Genesis support this conclusion?
No, it does not. The fact is that the Hebrew word translated “day” can mean various lengths of time, not just a 24-hour period. For example, when summarizing God’s creative work, Moses refers to all six creative days as one day. (Genesis 2:4) In addition, on the first creative day, “God began calling the light Day, but the darkness he called Night.” (Genesis 1:5) Here, only a portion of a 24-hour period is defined by the term “day.” Certainly, there is no basis in Scripture for arbitrarily stating that each creative day was 24 hours long.
How long, then, were the creative days? The Bible does not say; however, the wording of Genesis chapters 1 and 2 indicates that considerable lengths of time were involved.
This is the next reference from the Awake of 06. Is it me or is it a bit similar?
*** g 9/06 p. 19 Does Science Contradict the Genesis Account? ***
When Was “the Beginning”?
The Genesis account opens with the simple, powerful statement: “In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.” (Genesis 1:1) Bible scholars agree that this verse describes an action separate from the creative days recounted from verse 3 onward. The implication is profound. According to the Bible’s opening statement, the universe, including our planet Earth, was in existence for an indefinite time before the creative days began.
Geologists estimate that the earth is approximately 4 billion years old, and astronomers calculate that the universe may be as much as 15 billion years old. Do these findings—or their potential future refinements—contradict Genesis 1:1? No. The Bible does not specify the actual age of “the heavens and the earth.” Science does not disprove the Biblical text.
How Long Were the Creative Days?
What about the length of the creative days? Were they literally 24 hours long? Some claim that because Moses—the writer of Genesis—later referred to the day that followed the six creative days as a model for the weekly Sabbath, each of the creative days must be literally 24 hours long. (Exodus 20:11) Does the wording of Genesis support this conclusion?
No, it does not. The fact is that the Hebrew word translated “day” can mean various lengths of time, not just a 24-hour period. For example, when summarizing God’s creative work, Moses refers to all six creative days as one day. (Genesis 2:4) In addition, on the first creative day, “God began calling the light Day, but the darkness he called Night.” (Genesis 1:5) Here, only a portion of a 24-hour period is defined by the term “day.” Certainly, there is no basis in Scripture for arbitrarily stating that each creative day was 24 hours long.
How long, then, were the creative days? The wording of Genesis chapters 1 and 2 indicates that considerable lengths of time were involved.