I swear some JWs don't believe in forgiving and forgetting. It's like a tattooed scarlet letter.

by miseryloveselders 34 Replies latest jw friends

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  Lozhasleft

  'and forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive them that trespass against us.'

  They forget this dont they?...that their own trangressions being forgiven is dependent upon their OWN forgiveness of others...

  I remember two families leaving our K hall at the same time...one family was very wealthy with an elder head although only one of his four adult kids had stayed in the truth....the other family was a single parent family whose family head was the mother who'd been dfd and reinstated....but her kids had stayed in the truth....

  Guess which family got the fancy party send off? I tackled our group elder about the favouritism ....he said... and I quote - 'there's no comparison between these families...' we all know how much Bro X has done for the congregation'....! I suggested he go and read the book of James, which didnt go down too well as you can imagine.

  Sickening.

  Loz x
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  LisaRose

  In my experience, it's no different from any other organization, people are basically judgemental. The difference is they maintain a fiction that this is a loving organization. For those that "fit in" and are a member of an elder family, it may be. For those on the fringes, who are different, single, have an unbleiving mate, have problems, or have been DF'd, they do not feel this love.
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  jeckle

  thanks mis. i have stated on another site it bares repeating here ; that in the begining of my journey i didnt want to leave the org. i really just wanted poeple to stop talking about me . i had jumped thru many hoop and turned more cheaks then god gave me i had become a mouse of a man just take it . if i dared open my mouth in responce my responce had no merit . i was damaged goods for sure . and my 8 year old was always incriminated for being roudy even tho by that time he was right by my side. the last meeting i went to my bro yelled at my son cuz he said he walk in front of a seated elderly sis well that was the last straw and i snapped on him it took all my strenght to keep from getting physicall and he ran out of the hall trembling . by the way the sis hadnt even moved yet! i had never felt that much indignation and i was horrified by the thoughts i had about hurting him. i never have walked in a hall since then and i never will again . that was just the tip of the iceberg.ive been choked kicked punched pushed onthe ground screamed at humiliated in the worst ways as a kid by my dad and stepmom. but i wore the letter for there abuse because i "made them do it". you know the line "oh your poor parents if youd just behave". meanwhile the worst i ever did under their roof was eat off campus at lunch a few times or the occasional nod at a meeting or whisper to wicked step sisters they got away with murder tho.
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  brotherdan

  Misery,

  Listen to this song and tell me if it hits home:

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhOJW4Uwy3c
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  Mad Sweeney

  I'll tell ya, its something else to be in an elder's meeting, and seeing how individuals will vote, or keep silent depending on how weak or strong they view themselves in relation or proportion to others in the meeting.

  Give it to us straight, Miz. Most elders are ball-less wonders.

  Sticking to this thread subject, its something else entirely seeing how supposedly mature spiritual men can hold onto petty grudges and rivalries for multiple decades. They retain key events in their memories of when this brother or that brother crossed them, or let them down. It's ridiculous.

  The entire Borg has been stuck in a holding pattern for almost half a century. Is it any wonder that its members get fixated and suffer arrested development, too? They talk about progressing to spiritual maturity. It's complete BS. Most of them froze in place the moment they came up out of the water.
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  Retrovirus

  Jeckle, sorry for all you had to put up with! I'm not a jw, but as a single parent the best way to get me going was to disapprove of my kids or treat them unfairly.

  You'd think basic decency would prevent this happening, but not always. . .in and out of the jws. . .
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  wasblind

  Psalm 103:12 "as far as the east is from the west, so far has he removed our transgressions from us."

  In JW land the East has had a head on collision with the West
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  mamalove

  Too bad for the toxic attitudes swirling about. Sad that people are so nasty and justify it.
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  life is to short

  I was raised in the "truth" by parents who were abusive. As a child my parents and the elders were always fighting. I grew up and embraced the religion partly because I thought my parents were crazy and the some of the things the elders said and did toward my parents seem right. Like my parents would not take showers, it is a huge long story but my parents stunk really bad. I can never remember my dad ever taking a bath or shower. The elders would say Dick and Jane soap does not cost that much. I was thing yes please tell them to get clean.

  OK to cut to the point my parents loved to run me down to any and everyone who would listen. It was peer gossip and it was not true. One CoBE's wife loved gossip and she would let my mom call and trash me to her for hours.

  So here I am in my late 30's and this CoBE's wife called me up totally angry with me over things my mother has told her. She told me I was the worst child she had ever seen and I was no better as an adult, I had my elder husband get on the phone to listen and then I called the CO. I was beyond mad I wanted to have a committee meeting with her and her husband. Her husband said he listened to everything she said that night and he totally agreed with it. She was bring up things I did when I was five years old. OH MY WORD.

  Then when the CoBE realized that I had called the CO and he was involved he lied and said he never heard his wife say anything, he did no even know she was on the phone and he told the CO that his wife suffered from depression.

  Yeh nothing ever is forgotten in this religion expect if you were abused, especially sexually then they cannot remember it and you must have been lying or else you were really, really turned on by your dad when you were seven.

  Sick.

  LITS
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  mindmelda

  Mercy for Witnesses is sharpening their knives before they stab you in the back so it doesn't hurt so much going in.