Pray for our Brothers in Japan

by doubtful 46 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • sabastious
    sabastious

    Welcome to the forum doubtful! Your experience is similar to my own. Even at a young age I was questioning the very premise of what I was being taught and kept holding tight to it because of my family. I remember one time I finally had enough and stopped going to meetings. I lasted one week before I went back because each meeting night I had to watch my mother walk out the door with tears streaming down her eyes. If one loves their parents it's not really an option to leave until out of the house.

    -Sab

  • doubtful
    doubtful

    Thanks for all the welcomes.

    @sabastious - What you say is true. I don't think I'll ever be able to leave until I move out.

  • Princess Daisy Boo
    Princess Daisy Boo

    Hi Doubtful

    I totally get what you were saying about all the social shite, clicks etc... I remember it all too well!

    I moved out of my parents home at age 19, never went to another meeting again. I managed to somehow avoid disfellowshipping and 14 years later my parents and I have a semblance of a relationship, but it is not great and I still believe sometimes that it might be easier to have been DFéd or DAéd myself... but I just can't deal with the heartbreak that would have caused.

    Good luck with your journey hun!

    Boo

  • Mad Sweeney
    Mad Sweeney

    What would a Japanese person value from me right now?

    Knowing that I prayed for him/her or having a liter of water and a bowl of rice?

    Send whatever you can spare to a charity that actually DOES something for disaster relief and save your prayers for something else.

  • sabastious
    sabastious
    What would a Japanese person value from me right now?

    I was watching a video of a japenese girl who spoke english. She was saying how grateful the country is for all the warm words of support that has been given via Social Networks. The same goes for prayer... it doesn' t actually do anything, but then again the same could be said about warm words from people who have no means of actually helping.

    -Sab

  • Millions
    Millions

    Welcome doubtful, hopefully you won't be doubtful for much longer, instead you will be convinced! Convinced that it's all a load of crap ;)

    How many pit props need to give way before you get the hell out of the mineshaft...

    Praying for the brothers.... god, nothing would get my goat more when I was a JW than prayers for our brothers in war-torn or disaster-stricken lands. 'What about the other thousands of people affected?' I would think. Such sectarian judgemental attitudes prevail within the brotherhood. Save us and screw the rest please Father. Of course the real point of prayer is self-reinforcement of your beliefs. If you constantly read about something, pray about it, talk to fellow believers about it, try to convince other people of it, give talks and comments about it, you will have no time at all left to think about whether you actually believe it deep down. In fact you will end up convincing yourself of it.

    Prayers, in essence, are a way of getting you to relinquish control over your own life and hand it over to a deity, and therein possibly to the person or people who claim to represent that deity. You put all your burdens upon that deity, you hand everything over to them, and give up your own volition. You become a far more accessible tool for your religion to use.

    When I ceased believing JW doctrine, it took me a good year or so to stop that feeling of wanting to pray every time I came up against some obstacle or challenging circumstance in life. Eventually though you realise that noone is going to get you through this but you yourself, prayer is like a security blanket or a dummy, it makes you feel better even though it has zero practical function.

    Something from an employment training course I attended:

    No-one is coming to do it for you.

    - There is no knight in shining armour.

    - There are no fairy godmothers.

    - There is no genie of the lamp.

    - There was no Wizard of Oz.

    BUT there are lots of people who will help you, as long as you help yourself.

  • jamiebowers
    jamiebowers

    Welcome to JWN! You write so well and seem to be mature way beyond your 21 years. But my dear boy, there are many of us here and throughout the planet, who are twice your age and more, and we still don't have all the answers. You will have to find them for yourself, and with your intellect and pure heart, I have no doubt that you will do just that!

    How long will it be until you graduate from college? I'm worried that with your mother's circumstances of being unemployed, you may have to continue living with her even after you have a full time job. I think the key is for you to accept the fact that you cannot live your life for your mother. Doing so is unfair and unreasonable.

  • witnessofjesus
    witnessofjesus

    It's just sad to see someone bright as you throw out the baby, the Truth, with the bathwater, the BORG. Throw out the one and keep the other. You can love God apart from organized religion, millions are doing so now. The choice is yours, however.

  • doubtful
    doubtful

    What is the "BORG"? I've been meaning to ask that. I've deduced that it must refer to the organization, but is it some kind of acronym or what??

  • tec
    tec
    What is the "BORG"?

    Not a Star Trek fan?

    Borg refers to The Borg, from Star Trek. A half-cybernetic race that assimilates civilizations into itself. They are all exactly the same. A hive mind, etc.

    Now that the important stuff is out of the way, , welcome to the board, Doubtful.

    I can't help you in understanding what prayers might be answered, and what prayers might not be answered. I tend not to ask for things that would go against God's will. However, I do often ask for help for my children or others, but with the knowledge that part of whatever I have asked for is up to them to accept or not.

    I pray. It is a comfort for me, and it helps me to feel and maintain a bond to God and His Son.

    Tammy

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