So the jewish can't fight but the persecuted are now the persecutors? Which is it?
David and Goliath TRUE OR FALSE
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PublishingCult
This man David according to the jews was a great warrior. I have never met a jewish man who could fight for S**t and Davids his progeny all meekly went to the gas chambers allowing thier wives and children to be raped and murdered by the nazis .How many fought and lost their lives to protect thier families? Oh and then spent the next 60 years feeling sorry for themselves.
Actually, from a military viewpoint, the ancient Israelites were bad-ass, highly strategic, ruthless and merciless. Some scholars have reason to conclude that the Hebrews were not slaves of Egypt, but secular workers contracted for state building projects, and before that, going back to Abraham, highly skilled nomadic mercenaries.
The Bible shows that the Israelites' exodus from Egypt found them raiding and overtaking the towns at night for supplies in order to survive in the desert- this being the actual reason why Pharaoh became pissed off and chased them. The Israelites had stolen all of his shit.
The pillar of fire by night and the pillar of smoke by day that lead the Israelites was actually two kinds of Egyptian military torches, NOT Yahweh. Both torches were held high on long poles and carried in front of the vast number of Hebrews plodding across the desert. The daytime pillar of smoke was a torch with a brazier cap that created thick smoke the people could see and follow in the daytime.
The incident at the red sea most likely happened this way: Instead of heading directly to the sea of reeds, Moses lead the Israelites in a south-westerly direction away from the sea of reeds to meet pharaoh head on. It was night when the two armies met, the backs of the Israelites to the sea, the military torch positioned between the Egyptians and the Israelites. It's isn't that the Egyptians were being kept back by a mere torch, but it was dark, and in such darkness looking into a light of any kind affected your vision for up to 30 minutes. To attack the Israelites with this type of blindness would be suicide, so Pharaoh had to wait until dawn to commence the attack.
Moses had spent a long time in this desert and knew the terrain and the tide tables. Not being able to see past the torch, the Egyptians could not see that the Israelites were crossing the SHALLOWEST part of the sea of reeds during low tide, at which time the bed of this portion the sea was all but dry. It was low-tide that parted the sea, and again, NOT Yahweh, and while Pharaoh waited blind in the darkness to attack at dawn, the Israelites made their escape.
Thus, we have rational explanations for these supposed miracles and acts of God blown way out of porportion in order to create myth and legend so many today actually take literally and as truth. They embellished and gave credit to their imaginary god to strike fear in other nations and for street cred.
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suenott63
THe silence.
I said " I " "have never met" a jewish man who could fight for S**t . not they can't fight. Most jws won't fight but some still persecute others. Jewish people in the camps to save thier own skins persecuted thier own people in the camps, not all some .
I WaS Speaking from MY OWN eperience.
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suenott63
Thanks publishing cult very true. The Isrealites commited genocide long before it was carried out on them . They did it in the name of yahweh THE nazis did it in hitlers name I see no difference apart from the name of the worshipped and the fact that nations wiped out by the Jews are extinct and can't tell the world how they suffered at the hands of their persecutors. what happened to the Jews during the war shoukld never be forgotten for the terrible act it was . But the jews persucuted and murdered long before and are persecuting long after what happened at the hands of the nazis. This also should be recognised and condemned.
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james_woods
suenott63, I think I would stop digging this hole if I were you - it is just getting deeper and deeper.
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suenott63
Its true james you are right off course. What I have never been able to understand though is why are jewish persons or nation as a hole not held up to the same scrutiny or criticism as any other nation. Its seems that no matter what you say true or not about jews people are tarred with being anti semetic . These are my last words on this subject.
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james_woods
These are my last words on this subject.
I certainly hope so. We shall see.
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PublishingCult
What I have never been able to understand though is why are jewish persons or nation as a hole not held up to the same scrutiny or criticism as any other nation. Its seems that no matter what you say true or not about jews people are tarred with being anti semetic.
Depends on what your criticism pertains to.
We do not hold the descendents of the Ottoman Turks accountable for the atrocities of their ancestors, and likewise we do not hold Jews accountable for what their ancestors did, and neither do we say, "boy, they sure had that coming to them" when the Nazis tried to eradicate them. Bad form.
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bohm
Man, Suenott is trying hard to be a douchebag and a turd sandwhich at the same time...
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james_woods
I think I also neglected to say that this thread has gone completely OFF TOPIC.