Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 03-27-11 WT Study (DISCOURAGEMENT)

by blondie 30 Replies latest jw friends

  • ziddina
    ziddina

    (Paragraph 9...)

    "What enticements to err do you have to resist? Have you ever been tempted to flirt with someone who is not your marriage mate? If you are not married, have you ever had the urge to accept a date with an unbeliever? When watching television or using the Internet, Christians may suddenly be tempted to view something unclean. Has that happened to you, and if so, how did you react? It would be wise to meditate on how one false step could lead to another and then to serious wrongdoing. (Jas. 1: 14, 15) Think about the pain that an unfaithful act would bring to Jehovah, to the congregation, and to your family. A clean conscience, on the other hand, results from maintaining loyalty to divine principles. (Read Psalm 119:37; Proverbs 22:3.) Whenever you face such tests, be determined to pray for strength to resist them. ..."

    What MiseryLovesElders just said... Holding the rest of the family hostage... And again, reinforcing that illusion that disfellowshipping ONLY occurs due to unchristian "immorality", instead of a violation of the edict to "Agree with the Gov.Bod or else!"

    Zid

  • bobld
    bobld

    Thanks,Blondie

    Right on QFR wt 96.Comprehension of heavenly and earthly things give your head a shake GB you don't know the meaning.Why do you say study the WT and not the Bible.Your ex of charging a battery,if a battery is fully charged then it has the capacity to perform well.same with H.S

    Burned-out well anyone would get burned-out reading the WT.It burns the brain cell.

    B

  • WTWizard
    WTWizard

    Discouragement? This isn't the first time they were wrong. Many people remember 1969 when they urged people not to attend college. That left them in a very poor position for the recession of 1974-75, and they were left in debt when 1976 came with no job prospects. And they are now nearing retirement with nothing to show for it.

    Now, it would be one thing if they built a nest egg and lost most of it because the Rothschilds destroyed its value. But, they didn't even prepare for it. They were so sure they would never get that old that they simply cut back expenses so they could pio-sneer. And now, they are nearing another economic cliff--also with no reserves.

    And they are going to be even worse off when they find that things persist. First, they lose their dollar savings. They are now sure that the end is nigh--even if they could afford to buy the silver and gold needed to survive until mass human enslavement is reality, they would be that sure that it is not necessary. They would watch the Amero, then the world currency, come and then collapse still waiting for the end. All that's coming is mass human enslavement--at which point no religion is going to be their salvation. And still holding out for deliverance, which never comes. Is it any wonder these people get discouraged?

    And perhaps they are doing the wrong thing. Being awake means more than being aware that there is a problem. You need to know what it is, know the various aspects of the problem, and prepare for it as best they can. Being awake means finding that the EPA has regulations that will limit power plant output starting July 2011, and becoming worse in May 2012 (and gas in Dec 2011 and Nov 2012), and getting your bicycle and lighting systems ready. It means knowing what is happening that are symptoms of hyperinflation that will probably be coordinated with the fake energy crisis. It means knowing what is in that sick care bill, including section 9006 (the 1099 forms). It means knowing that the S-510 law will make growing and distributing your own food illegal, and that raids on your gardens are probable. It means finding out what other major items are going on, while not being distracted by the penny-ante items that are smokescreens (the homosexual agenda in classes is one example).

    For sure, preparing for the wrong crisis is one good way to get discouraged.

  • punkofnice
    punkofnice

    I've got as far as this so far............

    4 How is the power given to us by holy spirit

    manifested?

    I still can't see the answer to this question being answered in this paragraph!

    What kinds of actions or reactions

    might be the result of its influence?

    As we seek to serve God faithfully, we face numerous

    obstacles caused either by Satan, by

    his system of things, or by our own imperfect

    flesh. It is important that we overcome such

    obstacles in order to persevere as Christians,

    share regularly in the ministry,

    Oh, here we go...................................................

    and maintain

    a good relationship with Jehovah. Let us consider how holy

    spirit helps us to fight temptation

    and cope with tiredness and discouragement.

    .............my vomit-o-meter is at maximum!

  • Joliette
    Joliette

    Great!

  • BluesBrother
    BluesBrother

    I said to Sister Blues "It is a good thing we missed this one".......Had we gone she would have come home as strung out as Miseryloveselders....

    I reckon that lots of the senior ones do see through this kind of propaganda, just do not dare say so in public.

    Take the experience of Stephanie, the teen who pioneers after a stroke, tumour, surgery and heaven knows what else ...Is that designed to make the struggling senior citizen feel good about their modest report? It screams "If she can do it , why don't YOU..you slacker !".....Whatever they give this voracious taskmaster of an organization, it is never enough....

    If a member feels tired, burned out..the answer is to DO MORE ! Give more of your limited time and energy...Never mind your gammy leg and arthitus...The fact that the ministry is physically and mentally demanding does not seem to matter. It is the rest of life that must be cut back further , the stuff that does refresh the body and mind

    The fact of their own failed predictions is blamed on the person's own misapprehention, as if it were their own fault. The Bible is used on support of this by wheeling out again the same scripture they used in the eighties after '75 failed...Reading Habakkuk chap 1 v 6 "I am raising up the Chaldeans" so surely the prophesy applied to the sixth century B C Jerusalem . Is it really

    "Jehovahs assurance that the the end of this system ot things will come right on schedule" as par 17 claims??

  • miseryloveselders
    miseryloveselders

    I said to Sister Blues "It is a good thing we missed this one".......Had we gone she would have come home as strung out as Miseryloveselders....

    This article was just so messed up on so many levels. It's comical in the sense that the article was supposed to provide relief from, and give practical suggestions in combatting discouragement. The article did the exact opposite of its intention. I walked away from the WT study more discouraged than anything. I wanted to share something with all of you, and I have to change some of the specifics out of respect for that individual and out of concern for my own anonymity.

    A younger brother reached out to me some months ago for a couple reasons. One, his mother probably put him up to it as she's concerned with his attitude and demeanor towards Da Troof. As far as elders go, I'm younger than most, and some parents feel that I can be an inspiration or an example for their teenagers. I'm the one that kids and teenagers ask to work with in field service. If only they knew the kind of pressure that puts on me. I don't want to be anybody's example, I just want to be me for all the good and bad that comes with it. This kid, who's a good dude by most reasonable people's standards, has been exibiting the classic signs of a young JW adult trapped within this religion. He begrudginly goes out in field service, he's bored out of his mind at the meetings, doesn't fit in with the other young people in the congregation, and the thermostat on his hormones is set at hell.

    So he asked if he could speak to me privately and off the record, and not within an earshot of his mother. I agreed, and asked that he meet me at a Wendy's and the tab would be on me. So we're talking about regular things that a young fella has goin on in his life. We rapped about sports, video games, girls, and just life in general. Here's where it got complicated. He intimated to me that he feels trapped because he's incapable of supporting himself at this time. Not only that, but he expressed some dismay at his low field service time, and lack of commenting at the meeting. At that point I offered to help him in that regard, but what he said next left me pretty much floored. He said, "Misery you don't understand. I don't believe in any of this stuff anymore. At all, but I'm not able to move out just yet." What do you say to that? Especially if you no longer believe in some of it either.

    Some of the specifics in this account have been edited and altered out of respect for him. I don't see anything wrong with what I did post because I'm sure there's tons and tons of other young ones, and plenty of adults too, that feel trapped in this religion. That's what makes this article so discouraging. They, as in those taking the lead in the higher levels of this organization just can't seem to grasp that its them. Life has its problems, so be it, but we man up and deal with it. I have to eat, I need transportation, and I'm about to toss a grand into my car and am debating whether or not to put a down payment on a new car. My folks are up in years and need assistance from myself and my brother and sister. My job stresses me some days, but through it all I can see that all of these are absolutely necessary. What I no longer see as necessary is the demands of the WT organization. They just don't get it, its not the job, its not the pursuit of sports or hobbies, its not the vacations, its not that some of haven't found a suitable marriage mate, or any of life's demands. What it is, is the WT's demands, and the neverending feeling of not measuring up to these unscriptural measuring sticks. If that's not enough, the WT has a trump card which is the threat of losing family, friends, and in some people's cases, their very livelyhood. Its a very discouraging setting, similar to coming to grips with doing 25 to life in prison.

  • sabastious
    sabastious
    What it is, is the WT's demands, and the neverending feeling of not measuring up to these unscriptural measuring sticks.

    Nail on the head, miz. Why can't the Witnesses have an internal uprising, one like the rebellions in the mid east and Libya? When do you think the skeptics will outnumber the believers within the organization?

    -Sab

  • OUTLAW
    OUTLAW
    When do you think the skeptics will outnumber the believers within the organization?.....-Sab

    It`s already happening..The younger generation isn`t buying WBT$ crap anymore..

    Look how many JW`s on the board,are looking for a way out..

    Look how many have left and ended up here..Look how many left,after coming here..

    Then theres the ones like Misery described..Trapped because their too young to leave home..

    In 5-10-20 years alot of older JW`s are going to die off..Who`s going to replace them?..

    If JW`s could walk away with no Consequences 50% would be gone instantly..

    Another 30% would be doing a whole lot less for the WBT$..

    They would be fading whether they realised it or not..

    The WBT$/JW membership is going to be a Shell of what it used to be..

    It all takes time..

    ....................... ...OUTLAW

  • Mr. Falcon
    Mr. Falcon

    If JW`s could walk away with no Consequences 50% would be gone instantly..

    damn right they would.

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