My wife's anxiety, guilt

by ashitaka 29 Replies latest jw friends

  • GinnyTosken
    GinnyTosken

    Ashitaka,

    My wife has been depressed each time we see our JW friends. She doesn't want to see them anymore, because it reminds her of what she left behind, and it makes her feel bad.
    Even if you've been out a long time, interacting with true-believing JWs requires a large reserve of patience and understanding.

    Your wife is probably grieving and may not be strong enough to face your JW friends right now. It's like ending a romantic relationship--you're asking for trouble if you sit around looking at old photos and listening to songs that bring back memories. Until the memories don't hurt quite so much, it's usually a good idea to put these things away for awhile.

    It's not an easy task to rebuild a network of friends from scratch, but you've got to start somewhere. Anywhere there are people, your wife is likely to make new friends--an exercise class, an art class, a book discussion, a concert. If she does what she likes, she'll likely meet people she'll enjoy as friends.

    I've offered to go back to meetings for a while to help her break away. She never wants to go back, but her guilt and anger make her so uncomfortable around active JW's.....it's really bothering her.
    Has she considered therapy for her depression? It helped me tremendously, and I highly recommend it. She can examine the roots of her guilt, express her anger, will get the personal attention she needs, and will learn new skills to cope with the emotions she'll experience as she draws away from the JWs.

    If she doesn't want to seek therapy, urge her to express her feelings somehow. Listen to her whenever she needs to talk. You may feel uncomfortable as you listen, especially if you are experiencing the same grief. You may feel that you have to fix things somehow, and not knowing exactly how may make you feel powerless. Remember that your wife does not need you to fix things for her. What she needs is someone who will understand, someone who will let her pour out the pain.

    Encourage her to write about her feelings. Maybe she can write letters to the people she will miss, letters that she will not send or mail--these letters are for her only. There are some good suggestions at the site below for writing letters in a way that will work through anger, blame, hurt, sadness, fear, guilt, love, gratitude, and forgiveness.

    Love Letter Technique
    http://www.oahouston.org/oa-Love-Letter-Technique.htm

    Any good books out there on breaking away from controlling organizations, especially concentrating on keeping the friendships but not the allegiance to the organization in question? I'm really having a hard time helping her with this. I'm always there for her, but I don't have any solutions to her sadness in this regard.
    I know there are books specifically about leaving high-control religious organizations such as When God Becomes a Drug: Breaking the Chains of Religious Addiction and Abuse by Father Leo Booth, and Toxic Faith by Steve Arterburn and Jack Felton. I have not read these two.

    I was greatly helped by the books about codependency by Melody Beattie, Healing the Shame that Binds You by John Bradshaw, and Feeling Good: The New Mood Therapy by David D. Burns. While these books were helpful, I'll add the caveat that I don't think I would have emerged from depression with the books alone. I needed the weekly coaching of my therapist to actually put the principles I'd read into practice.

    I work very hard to make her happy, but she's been feeling insecure about the future because she said that, "When I was a JW, I always had some kind of focus. No matter how blind it was, I miss having a direction to go in."
    I agree with Gopher--you cannot make your wife happy; only she can make herself happy.

    Encourage her to think about what is important to her, what she values most. In what way would she like to make a difference? Maybe volunteer work would give her a focus. What has she always wanted to do? She knows what makes her unhappy; what makes her happy? That reminds me of another good book--Do What You Love, the Money Will Follow: Discovering Your Right Livelihood by Marsha Sinetar. Your wife doesn't sound particularly concerned about money right now, but the advice about doing what you love would still be helpful, I think.

    After I left the JWs, I missed the program of "upbuilding" information. Granted, a lot of it wasn't all that upbuilding, but at least many people were trying to practice love and understanding as best they knew how. We're bombarded by bad news from the media, and I craved the quiet time to contemplate good things. One of the things I had to learn was how to nurture myself and make this quiet time for myself outside of the structure imposed by the JW ways.

    Books about simple living satisfy my craving. Two very good ones are The Simple Living Guide and Simple Loving, both by Janet Luhrs. Another is Simple Abundance: A Daybook of Comfort and Joy by Sarah Ban Breathnach. The latter is like a non-religious yearbook for women. Maybe you could give her this book as a present. Here is the thought for today:

    My business is not to remake myself,
    But make the absolute best of what God made.

    --Robert Browning

    Making the absolute best of ourselves is not an easy task. It is a pleasurable pursuit, it is the reason we were born, but it requires patience, persistence, and perseverance. For many of us, it also requires prayer. That's because we find it far easier to learn to live by our own lights when we access a Higher Source of Power to illuminate our path. The filmmaker and writer Julia Cameron calls this switching on "spiritual electricity" that transcends our own limitations.

    In my own journey I have found this to be very true. Usually I limited the times I requested that the Power be turned on to the occasions when I was appearing in public: giving workshops, lecturing, holding business meetings. Then it occurred to me that this was like living in a house with electricity but turning on the lights only for a couple of hours every few months. And I wondered why I was frequently bumping into obstacles. So I started to ask for the Power to be switched on in my daily life: as a mother, a wife, a writer, and a friend. When I asked, it was turned on. When I didn't, I stayed in the dark. You don't have to be a master electrician to understand what's going on here: someone has to turn on the switch. Asking is the way of activating spiritual electricity. When there is Light we see remarkably well. We see with clarity. And what we can see if we look deep within is that the authentic self is the Soul made visible.

    Do not try to remake yourself into something you're not. Just try making the best of what God made. The sacred art and craft of nurturing our souls and the souls of those we love is Simple Abundance soulcraft. Begin today by turning on the Light.

    Ginny
  • ashitaka
    ashitaka

    Thanks, everyone, especially Ginny-Very valuable stuff. Thanks for your time. I'm going to look into the books, and maybe you're right. Therapy might be good.

    ashi

  • concerned mama
    concerned mama

    Hi Ashi,
    Ginny's suggestions are marvelous. During a difficult time in my life I wrote out my pain in a journal, and it helped. All those books sound great. The biggest help was TIME, and forcing myself to find a new focus.

    Are you both in a kind of limbo? I have often wanted to start a thread about that...how so many of you are able to leave the JW life, but aren't ready to jump fully into the "world". To enjoy the simple pleasures of the world, like Valentine's day, and birthdays, and Christmas, and having friends whose religion has no bearing on your frriendship. So you leave the positive things in the Borg, and there must be some or so many of you wouldn't have been part of it, yet you don't experience the positive things in the regular world. Do you do the fun stuff yet?

    Maybe the healthiest thing would be to leave all the Borg stuff behind you, and go full steam ahead. Walking in both worlds just doesn't work.

  • LittleToe
    LittleToe

    True to form, the emotional blackmail begins.

    I had something similar in the last couple of weeks.
    A congregation party, which was "so lovely".
    Family gatherings with my wife invited, but not I.
    Flaunting of the "wonderful" new TMS Guidebook.

    If it wasn't so sad, I would laugh.
    Taking advise from several posters here, however, I had begun to put social structures in place before leaving. I'm glad I listened to their advice, because it still hurt like h*ll, but could have been far worse.

    Hope things improve for you both, Ashi.
    Take care, pal.

  • Angharad
    Angharad

    Ash & Mrs Ash

    Sorry your having a hard time at the moment.

    One of the hardest things after leaving for me was leaving behind friends, I understand what you mean about the lack of focus.

    I have started working towards a degree, which has helped me greatly, as it gives me something to concentrate on and work towards, maybe learning something new would give your wife the structure and goals that she feels she needs at the moment.

  • SexyTeen
    SexyTeen

    Ashitaka:

    Could the anxiety be coming from knowing that she is leaving Jehovah behind? Obviously Jehovah is not blessing your decision and this creates much confusion.

    I'm sorry you are going through this and hope that you will be humble enough to accept Jehovah's guidance again.

  • Billygoat
    Billygoat

    (((((Ashi and Mrs. Ashi)))))

    I know the heartbreak of losing friends in the bOrg. It sucks. But do what you need to do to take care of yourselves. I turned my focus to living the best life possible. Educating myself. Loving my friends and family. Getting loved by friends and family. Gaining some new friends with a different background. Splurging on a pedicure. Having a picnic with my dogs. Enjoying the five senses. Eat with gusto! Listen with intenseness! Watch with eagerness! Touch with tenderness! Smell with a sigh! Do everything you can with PASSION!!! Catering to your five senses, leave you too tired to worry about what you're leaving behind. ENJOY THE MOMENT!!!

    I know you're in a mourning period and do take time to get through the crying spells and sadness. But don't wallow. Be gentle on yourself and treat yourself to something special everyday. After spending the first 2 decades of your life in hell...you deserve it!!!

    Love,
    Andi

  • jukief
    jukief

    Ashi,

    About nine years ago, I went to the UU church one Sunday morning because a friend wanted to try out. Although I haven't been heavily involved (only because I'm lazy), I found that the UUs offer a lot of what JWs miss about being a Witness. If you and your wife are open to giving it a try, I suggest you look up your local UU church and drop by sometime. The UUs have a great feeling of comradery and common goals; they're very involved in community service, which would be a good thing for your wife, I think. Even though UUs have remarkedly different belief systems, they have one thing in common: They are searching for some kind of spirituality in their lives--whether it be through christianity or some other means--and they try to express that spirituality in their dealings with their fellow man. I should warn you, though, that UUs are liberal in their politics. That's one of the things I love about them, but if you tend to be conservative in your views, it might not be the right match for you.

    I think volunteer work is a great way to make up for some of the feelings we had as JWs. Doing something for people less fortunate has a very healing effect. My mom has taken up volunteer work, and it's really helped with her depression since she lost her faith. It gives her something else to focus on and lets her interact with people.

    Julie

  • Lari
    Lari

    Ashi-
    This is such a tough time for you and your wife - I think most of us here understand that. All I can say is It does get better.

    The idea of going back to school is a great one. While part of the org I felt like that wasnt really an option. You know the old "if you time for school you should have more time for service". Now I take one class at a time (slow I know) and hope to take on more as time progresses. I'm still learning to embrace the things that were not encouraged as a witness. College, vacations without guilt over missed meetings, making friends with anyone I choose, humming Christmas songs without fear of being overheard.

    The idea that Mrs. anxiety is due to "leaving Jehovah behind" is far fetched. It's the people we leave behind that hurt us. It's the loss of those Human relationships that we mourn. In my case, the last entity I feared when leaving was Jah. I figured, if he's really there and can see into my soul - he knows how this decision kills me and that I completely believe it to be right - hell, I prayed about it and here I am.

    Good luck, let your wife know that it's ok to grieve and that she's not alone.

  • Ranchette
    Ranchette

    Ashi,
    Sorry about what's happening here.
    But I believe these feelings are normal considering what we have all been through.
    I remember feeling just like this.
    We all need a circle of friends and a sense of belonging.
    We also need to feel that our lives have purpose.

    There has been lots of great input so far but I'll add my 2cents anyway.

    First there is another MUST read book I have to recomend.

    COMBATTING CULT MIND CONTROL by Steven Hassen

    Also religion is not the only sourse to meet these needs. There are many other ways to get what you need.It is dangerous to get involved too quickly with another one.
    You just freed yourselves so be careful not to become slaves again.

    But if you do decide to go with a church I am with Jukie on The Unitarian Unaversalist church.
    You are truly free to think and reason for yourself with UU instead of a rigid belief system found in so many religions.You don't even have to believe in God or the Bible.
    If there was one in my town I would go there sometimes.

    I ended up joining a club.

    We have a great time and do lots of volenteer work.
    I have had so many new experiences since joining.
    You can check with your county extension office to see what is available.

    If you have children put them in something extracurricular and it will be good for them plus you will all meet new people.

    You could also take some kind of classes your interested in.
    In fact that might be a good way for your wife to start branching out into her new and sometimes scary life.

    Ranchette

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