Quick Question (or two, or three)...

by AGuest 44 Replies latest jw friends

  • AGuest
    AGuest

    Yeah, no... I'm not asking about "spiritual" as it pertains to believing in God, per se, dear Q (peace to you!), but spiritual... in the absence of spirit/the spirit. I mean, even what you describe suggests... to ME... that there is more than just the physical being that you are. I mean, your physical ears will still hear the sounds... unless you shut them. What is the "you" that is shutting out the sounds, etc.. so that your physical body doesn't HAVE to... ummmm... receive and entertain them? Also, if "you" can actually shut out such sounds/distractions... if you have such capacity... can you not ALSO "tune in" to... well... "sounds" that are not normally received BY your physical body? If so, what is the "you" that has such capacity?

    Can you respond to these?

    Again, peace to you!

    A slave of Christ,

    SA

  • jay88
    jay88

    To exist, is to have spirit even if one is Athiest.

  • Twitch
    Twitch

    spir·it·u·al

    –adjective

    1. of, pertaining to, or consisting of spirit ; incorporeal.

    2. of or pertaining to the spirit or soul, as distinguished from the physical nature : a spiritual approach to life.

    3. closely akin in interests, attitude, outlook, etc.: the professor's spiritual heir in linguistics.

    4. of or pertaining to spirits or to spiritualists ; supernatural or spiritualistic .

    5. characterized by or suggesting predominance of the spirit ; ethereal or delicately refined: She is more of a spiritual type than her rowdy brother.

    6. of or pertaining to the spirit as the seat of the moral or religious nature.

    7. of or pertaining to sacred things or matters; religious; devotional; sacred.

    8. of or belonging to the church; ecclesiastical: lords spiritual and temporal.

    9. of or relating to the mind or intellect.

    Semantics are important; pls carry on :)

  • startingover
    startingover

    I think I have the "spiritual" thing figured out. I don't need belief in a god, or some invisible realm for me to be at peace with myself, to sit and contemplate my space in the universe. All I need are some liquid "spirits", and that is no joke.

  • caliber
    caliber

    The word religion in Latin actually refers to piety and the word spiritual comes from the French word esprit and refers to the breath or breathing

    In the biblical sense, all living creatures are spiritual by virtue of being given breath in the first place.

    In this sense of the word, we are all spiritual in differing ways and to differing degrees at various times, as we are more or less aware of the invisible, inaudible, impalpable sacredness of all things. This question as I see it in Shelby's mind I believe , is using the word spiritual in this sense ......referring to a conscious relationship with all that is holy. (a connection outside of ourselves )

    My assumption in this regard is based on this quote..

    Can someone help me understand, please, if we are nothing more than physical beings, what is meant by "spiritual" experiences, etc., for those who do not believe in spirits... or the spirit (that I assert we all possess)?
  • Mad Sweeney
    Mad Sweeney

    The Dalai Lama being spiritual? LOL I guess supression and slavery is the outcome of spiritually.

    Did I miss a class? Who has the Dalai Lama supressed and enslaved?

  • Quentin
    Quentin

    Shebly, not sure what your asking. Have to run some errands and will get back to this later. In the mean time think about what caliber said. You've gotten some astute answers already. Will do my best to further address the question as I see it.

  • NomadSoul
    NomadSoul

    @MadSweeny

    Maybe you slept through when the topic of serfdom came about. LOL

  • ProdigalSon
    ProdigalSon

    Hi Shelby....hope you are recovering well.

    It seems that people have varying degrees of spirituality, and for some it's entirely missing. These ones appear to lack self-awareness, volition, and the capacity to value transcendental ideals. True spirituality is at the core of one's being, beyond the physical factors such as defective genetics, or a poor upbringing. Egos are the result of what we are exposed to after being born, and they become defects in the hardware and programming of the biological machine, but the core inner being is different, separate. It involves the consciousness operating the machine. Some have intuitive or clairvoyant perception that picks up consciousness waves, which are real energy, and this involves metaphysical factors.

    So I think spirituality involves more than the kind of soul energy that merely keeps people alive. There is a higher spark of true sentience and self-awareness. It is the core of individualized consciousness, that permanent aspect of one’s being representing the true Self, which is ever evolving. Ecclesiastes 12:7 describes this spirit going back to the Creator, but since this is a real, individualized consciousness, an energy that cannot be extinguished but must somehow change states, what happens to it after it accumulates experiences and spiritual wisdom throughout life? What would be the purpose of life? The only logical conclusion to me, is that it survives physical death, and remains intact upon reincarnating to continue growing toward the fulfillment of its potential. It is the divine god-spark and the seat of freewill. Metaphysical science decribes it as the holographic fragment of the Creator residing at the very center of your being. It is the “I AM” that is you, the inner conscious observer that is even capable of observing its own self-observation!

    Edited to add:

    Yes farkel you nailed it

  • ProdigalSon
    ProdigalSon

    Did I miss a class? Who has the Dalai Lama supressed and enslaved?

    I was wondering the same thing.....

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