Oh cool, good advice for my current situation.
How to win a religious argument
by Terry 22 Replies latest watchtower bible
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botchtowersociety
Growing up, I recall how my best friends father (also Cuban) was a chess genius. He could have been a Grand Master, and he was once competitve. Unfortunately, the cult frowned on such pursuits. Informally, my father was quite an aficionado, purchasing early electronic chess games and playing with fellow geeks that hadnt applied their chess skills to the Watchtower game. I wonder where they are today?
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the-illuminator81
The argument is not won. The argument has only been pushed off the table.
I've been in arguments with JWs where there are no ad hominem attacks, even though it's their favorite tool in discussion. So what do they do? They stick to their own thoughtstoppers. They red-herring you until you become dizzy. They never answer the question.
For example, when you ask them if it was righteous to punish children with death by bear for name-calling, they will say "God judges the heart." They will not answer that death is a just punishment for name-calling.
When you ask them if it is righteous to punish somebody for something you made him do, like God made Farao keep the Israelites instead of releasing them by hardening his heart, they will say "Yes but God uses heathens to further his own cause. He was an evil satan-worshipper, so he had no right to live. It's OK because he will be resurrected in paradise." They will not answer that you can punish people when you have pushed them to sin yourself.
When you ask them if it God was being righteous when he made up the rule that says Jesus has to die because Eve made a mistake, they will not answer. They will not say it is righteous for someone to die for the mistakes of someone else.
When you ask them why God is taking humanity hostage, by demanding a ransom sacrifice, they do not answer. They won't say that it is righteous to take people hostage.
If you want to believe in the bible, you need to stick to these lame excuses, hold fast and never let them go because the moment you stop believing in these miserable thought-stoppers you will lose your faith.