Which one of these men will you kill...if either?

by Terry 112 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • sooner7nc
    sooner7nc

    Eeenie Meenie Mynee Mo.....

  • tec
    tec

    I don't have the right to take an innocent life, or even take a chance with an innocent life. I do not believe in collateral damage. At all. Even if that means something worse happens... (in the short run, because we aren't very good at seeing the long run... or learning from the short run at all, for that matter)

    All of that aside:

    What if the scientist was going to make amends with his/her child after being estranged most of their lives, and now that child will live forever in guilt or anger for not having gotten that chance? What if the scientist saves someone else's life before being killed by the serial killer? What if the scientist was to go home and make love with his wife who gives birth to someone who cures aids? What if that scientist fought terribly with a loved one that morning and now that loved one will again live in guilt and/or anger?

    Does anyone have a right to cut his life shorter than what it will already be cut?

    Tammy

  • thetrueone
    thetrueone

    I'm a very religious atheist so........ " Thou shall not kill "

  • Terra Incognita
    Terra Incognita

    Berengaria:

    "Choose one at random. If it's the research scientist the outcome is the same. If it's the serial killer the world is cured of cancer and eleven people see another day."

    OUTLAW: "Flip a coin.."

    OUTLAW beat me to it.

    thetrueone:

    Since the consequences of making the wrong decision are so high, most people would refrain from pushing any button

    Some consequences are higher than others. It's clear in this situation which one would be worse; and to what extent.

    ProdigalSon: "Can't take a chance on killing the research scientist, gotta pass and leave it in the hands of a higher authority... "

    If you don't believe in a moral "higher authority", would He/She/It really condemn you for taking such actions? If you do believe in a moral "higher authority, how would you know that He/She/It is either testing you or is neutral so long as you don't commit any willful immoral actions?

    Furthermore, doesn't this assumption that only a moral "authority" has the right to take life, condemn soldiers and policemen; especially in view of the fact that they can sometimes make inevitable mistakes and kill someone innocent?

    If this "higher authority" did condemn any of the above for taking such action, how moral an authority would it be?

  • Berengaria
    Berengaria
    Furthermore, doesn't this assumption that only a moral "authority" has the right to take life, condemn soldiers and policemen; especially in view of the fact that they can sometimes make inevitable mistakes and kill someone innocent?

    I was thinking about that aspect earlier.

    If we want to take a biblical view of this, wasn't Abraham asked to kill for the "greater good"? Sodom and Gomorrah, the Flood, Moses................ It isn't as though the biblical god didn't ask for sacrifice. Jesus himself.

    Tec, none of your scenarios covers the number of people saved by the life of the scientist and his cure.

  • Berengaria
    Berengaria

    Tec, excuse me, I love you dearly, but you are making an excellent point.

    Religion has NO place in politics or government. If sitting by and waiting for god is your answer, you have no business applying for the job. (that's a generality, not directed at Tec)

  • kimbo
    kimbo

    Get a hobby

  • lovelylil
    lovelylil

    Niether.

  • NomadSoul
    NomadSoul

    Experiment? Heck, if you live in Texas you're already part of the experiment. Which by keeping the death sentence I think I already killed several people.

  • Terra Incognita
    Terra Incognita

    Berengaria: "If we want to take a biblical view of this, wasn't Abraham asked to kill for the "greater good"?"

    It could be argued that God did not intend that Abraham actually kill his son. However, other obvious examples, from the Biblical Old Testament, can be given; although the counterargument is that God's idea of murder versus killing was different than ours.

    It is in the New Testament that a concept of absolute non-killing may be attributed to. Yet, in spite of that, the issue of "Christian" policemen and soldiers still remains.

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