"No, he's worse than a racist. He's an egotistical, greedy, shameless, self promoting oppurtunist"
Due to this I’m personally boycotting NBC, I won’t watch any of their shows until they pull Trump off the air.
So......Obama IS a US citizen after all?!
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CoonDawg
The birthers can say it's not about race all they want...and maybe it was just a political bomb thrown my the Hillary campaign who desperately wanted to win the WhiteHouse. It IS racism that has perpetuated this mess. Obama originally supplied the official state document that was asked. Then he was alegedly not forthcoming because it wasn't good enough for the birthers. It stayed on the fringe and dismissable (even w/ some of the Faux news folks perpetuating it) until Trump decided to run for the presidency and started this self-agrandizing crap up again. I guess he probably decided that he wasn't going to have this stupidity hanging over his re-election bid.
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Terra Incognita
A perpetual stream of excrement from Republican sphincter-mouths.
Wed Apr 27, 5:34 pm ET
Birtherist response highlights racial undertones of ‘debate’
By Rachel Rose Hartman By Rachel Rose Hartman rachel Rose Hartman – Wed Apr 27, 5:34 pm ET
During the 2008 campaign, questions about John McCain's birth in the Panama Canal Zone on a U.S. military base prompted some to ask whether McCain was eligible to be president, since the Constitution stipulates that anyone not born in the United States is not eligible to be president.
Amid a flurry of news reports, McCain's own campaign announced in February 2008 that it was conducting an investigation. When a bipartisan pair of lawyers announced the following month that McCain was indeed eligible, the issue virtually died--apart from a Senate resolution that pretty much laid the question to rest by attesting to the facts surrounding McCain's birth and citizenship.
But the winner of the 2008 election, Barack Obama, has faced a relentless campaign questioning his U.S. citizenship--and thereby the legitimacy of his presidency--that has disregarded the facts.
Questions regarding Obama's birth certificate have persisted for more than two years, as the president noted Wednesday at a press conference announcing the release of his long-form birth certificate. A vast array of evidence attests to Obama's citizenship--including a certificate of live birth, signed affidavits from people who viewed Obama's long-form birth certificate, confirmation by Hawaiian officials, and independent investigations by news outlets. Nevertheless, "this thing just keeps going" as Obama said this morning. Even after the White House released the long-form certificate of Obama's birth, birther leader Orly Taitz—who has filed unsuccessful lawsuits seeking to obtain access to Obama's birth certificate—sought to cast doubt on the document's authenticity, suggesting that in 1961, Hawaiian officials would have classified Obama as "Negro" rather than using designation "African," which suggests, in her view, a more contemporary concern for "political correctness."
So what's fueling the dogged questioning of Obama's origins? Many critics of the birther movement say its core tenets--and its stubborn resistance to evidence disproving those beliefs--can be traced to racial hostilities. The fundamental birtherist conviction, these critics say, is that an African-American can't have legitimately won the presidency--and that his elevation to power therefore has to be the result of an elaborate subterfuge.
"There is a real deep-seated and vicious racism at work here in terms of trying to de-legitimate the president," Peniel Joseph, a professor of history at Tufts University, told The Ticket.
"This is more than just a conspiracy," Joseph added. "I think this is fundamentally connected to a conception of white supremacist democracy in this country."
Miami Herald columnist Leonard Pitts Jr. in early April called for the connection to be publicly drawn between birthers and racism: "So it is time to call this birther nonsense what it is--not just claptrap, but profoundly racist claptrap."
And columnist Michael Tomasky wrote for The Guardian Wednesday that the birther conspiracy "had to be the only explanation for how this black man got to the White House." He added: "And if you think race isn't what this is about at its core, ask yourself if there would even be a birther conspiracy if Barack Obama were white and named Bart Oberstar. If you think there would be, you are delusional."
In a similar vein, Rev. Jesse Jackson told Politico yesterday that Donald Trump's campaign to get Obama to release his birth certificate is deeply rooted in race.
"Any discussion of [Obama's] birthplace is a code word," Jackson said. "It calls upon ancient racial fears." Jackson later added that, in his view, Trump "is now tapping into code-word fears that go far beyond a rational discourse."
Birthers emphatically deny such criticism. But it's difficult to apprehend the ongoing resistance to proof of Obama's citizenship without crediting racial fear as a significant factor. At first, after all, many adherents of birtherism argued that the administration fueled speculation by failing to release the long-form version of Obama's birth certificate, but now that this version has been released to the public, the call continues to go out for other kinds of information about Obama's past to be released--a level of scrutiny that neither McCain nor Obama's 43 predecessors in the Oval Office were expected to face.
Trump, who has railed against Obama as he floats himself as a presidential contender, on Wednesday at a press conference in New Hampshire called for Obama to release his academic transcripts:
The word is, according to what I've read, that he was a terrible student when he went to Occidental. He then gets to Columbia. He then gets to Harvard. I heard at Columbia he wasn't a very good student. He then gets to Harvard. How do you get into Harvard if you're not a good student. Maybe that's right or maybe that's wrong. But I don't know why he doesn't release his records. Why doesn't he release his Occidental records?
Trump and others have accused Obama of not authoring his memoir, while many Obama detractors continue to argue he is secretly Muslim. Both Jackson and Joseph noted that never before has a sitting president's nationality been questioned.
Meanwhile, an eye-opening recent study from the University of Delaware appears to confirm that race-minded detractors of Obama view him as "less American"--as Dan Vergano writes for USA Today.
The study, which surveyed blacks and whites on their opinions of Obama compared to Vice President Joe Biden, found that whites classified as "higher prejudice-predicted Whites" viewed Obama as "less American"--a view that, in turn, resulted in lower evaluations of the president's performance.
"Finally, many in the media have speculated that current criticisms of Obama are a result of his race, rather than his agenda. We believe that the current results are an empirical demonstration that this is sadly the case," the study concluded in its analysis. "As the United States approaches important decisions regarding issues such as economic reform, health care, and overseas military interventions, the intrusion of racial attitudes in the evaluation of political leaders' performance is ironically inconsistent with what many believe to be 'American.' "
Two separate national polls conducted this spring found that about half of Republicans don't believe Obama was born in the United States.
But Democrats and Republicans alike say that "birther" talk will be a political liability for whoever propagates the discussion.
"I don't think it's an issue that moves voters," Republican National Committee chairman Reince Priebus told reporters Tuesday. "It's an issue in my opinion that I don't personally get too excited about, because I think the more important question is what's going on in this country in regards to jobs, to debt, and the deficit and spending. Those are the things that people are worried about. People aren't worried about these other issues."
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Terra Incognita
Next step by the psychos; Forensic testing of the birth certificate.
Why should that surprise anyone?
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=292597
The liars lost – who won?
Posted: April 29, 2011
1:00 am Eastern © 2011The other shoe has dropped. As I predicted in a previous column:
When truth is being suppressed, people who refuse to accept the deception have every reason to be grateful to a well-known public figure who loudly trumpets his similar skepticism. But once the grateful public gathers behind him in sufficient numbers, his response to events can be portrayed as authoritative. Then it's just a matter of trotting out some contrivance intended to placate public opinion, one that superficially appears to resolve the matter, but without addressing what's really at stake. By the time the bellwether conveniently announces that he's satisfied, the grateful grass-roots support he has received will have made him enough of a public opinion authority to discourage and stigmatize those tempted to challenge him. This will assure that, unlike Don Quixote's pasteboard helmet, the placatory contrivance is never made to undergo anything like real scrutiny.
On Wednesday this week, after refusing the simple request for several years; after expending several million dollars in lawyer's fees to battle anyone who dared pursue it; after vindictively engineering the court-martial and imprisonment of an honorable soldier who stood by his sworn oath to defend the Constitution of the United States ; Barack Obama finally gave in and released what purports to be a copy of his full and complete birth certificate .
This constitutes incontrovertible proof that he, his media claque (including snopes.com, etc.) and the gullible or cowardly politicians (Democrat and Republican alike) who repeatedly claimed that he had already done so, were lying. The people they derided and ridiculed as "birthers" were telling the truth. The Certification of Live Birth published on the Internet, which these liars repeatedly referred to as his birth certificate, was an abridged certification that omitted the vital information needed to verify that he was born on U.S. soil, and could therefore claim, jus soli, to be a citizen at birth.
The Certificate of Live Birth released on Wednesday specifies the hospital where he was born and includes the signature of the attending physician. Assuming that it is not a convenient fabrication, it constitutes prima facie evidence as to the matter of fact involved in the eligibility controversy. The liars and dupes who asserted or accepted the Certification of Live Birth as his birth certificate will now contend that this ought to end the controversy. But since they were either lying or deceived up to now, it hardly matters what they contend. They ought properly to be accorded little or no credibility.
But until it has been submitted to forensic examination by unbiased and trustworthy experts, the same must be said of the document released Wednesday. Several years of now incontrovertibly proven deceit have generated a poisonous atmosphere of distrust. It cannot be dispelled except by careful steps, intended to reassure the many score millions of Americans who must now deeply resent the studied and deliberate campaign of deception and ridicule waged against them.
But more telling than this distrust of the evidence is the inevitable distrust of Barack Obama himself. Throughout this whole controversy, I and others like me have pointed to the fact that Obama could have ended it at once by releasing the requested documentation. We rightly pointed out that, having repeatedly sworn to uphold, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States, he had the moral duty and obligation to show, and be seen to show, respect for its authority. Impressed by this obligation, what sane, responsible public official would deliberately, stubbornly refuse to do so, particularly after assuming the presidency, the office most singularly responsible for preserving the Constitution's integrity?
Well aware of this logic, some people speculated that the actual birth certificate contained facts or information that would embarrass Obama, either by contradicting his own version of events or in some other way. But the document released this week is unexceptional in that respect. Assuming that it is what it purports to be, it provides no explanation whatsoever for Obama's stubborn campaign to withhold it from public scrutiny. Why would a sane, responsible public official, secure in his electoral claim to the nation's highest office, behave in a manner that resists and therefore derogates from the Constitution's authority? Why would he contrive, or allow others to contrive, the professional ruin and imprisonment of an honorable military officer who sought only to ascertain (as his officer's oath requires) that the orders he received came from a constitutionally lawful source of authority?
The Constitution derives from and represents the sovereignty of the American people. Each of Obama’s responsible fellow citizens has the right to exercise a share in that sovereignty. Why, therefore, would a sane and responsible public official order or permit his lawyers and cronies to demean the standing and deride the concerns of these citizens as they seek to assure respect for the Supreme Law of the Land, the highest permanent expression of the sovereign will of the people of the United States?
Except we find a rational explanation for his conduct, Obama's actions must appear to be the result of some irrational and defensive pride, some insanely arrogant sense that the oath, duties and lawful obligations of his position do not apply to him, as they have to the others who have occupied the office he claims. But we are in fairness forbidden to suspect Obama's moral sanity unless we also question the rationality of the politicians, judges and media personalities who joined in the campaign of lies, ridicule and derision intended to quell public insistence that due respect be shown for requirements plainly stated in the Constitution. In addition to demeaning the status and responsibilities of American citizenship, some of these people went so far as to suggest that the Constitution can be amended de facto by simple majority vote in a general election, casting aside the procedures for amendment the Constitution establishes.
As a government based on the consent and sovereignty of its citizens, the United States of America is the longest lived democratic constitutional republic known to history. That longevity is due, in large part, to the fact that for almost the whole of its existence its responsible citizens and especially its public officials worked to seed and cultivate a patriotic love of the Constitution. Such constitutional patriotism embodies and stabilizes the people's sovereignty, so that, as Abraham Lincoln said, a government "conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal … can long endure." Never before in our history has a clique of so-called leaders acted in a way that systematically questions and undermines the responsibility of all Americans – plain citizens, military officers and public officials alike – to show and be seen to show respect for the Constitution's authority
The issue of Obama's eligibility is important only and precisely because such confirmed and visible respect for the Constitution is critical to the stability and survival of government of, by and for the people. Donald Trump's unseemly boasting aside, it is thanks to the insistent common sense of ordinary Americans that Barack Obama has finally been compelled to take the first step toward apparently submitting to the nation's vital and honorable tradition in this respect. Is this the beginning of the end of the elitists'deliberate attempt to overthrow the sovereignty of the American people? That remains to be seen. Having by this first victory revealed the deliberate deception the elitists sought to impose upon the nation, citizens of goodwill must continue in their common-sense determination to assure that the eligibility issue is fully resolved, in a manner that respects the grave issue of constitutional integrity that is at stake.
The GOP leaders in the House of Representatives kicked off the new term by reading the Constitution of the United States into the record. Such lip service is not purely worthless, so long as the words it contains are implemented with integrity. In that spirit, will the House now move to demand proper forensic examination of the new evidence Obama has released? Will they put fealty to the Constitution above all fearful political considerations? Will they seek by proper constitutional means to assure a fair hearing for the issue, by due process of law, and including the issue of law the courts have refused to address, to wit: Does the phrase "natural born citizen" mean that both parents must have been U.S. citizens at the time of the child's birth?
Deception, gullibility and cowardice have prevented resolution of this whole matter for far too long. It is time for the elected representatives of the people to show themselves worthy of the courage and common sense of the people they are supposed to represent. Then and only then will this controversy be properly resolved; then and only then will the Constitution gain the victory. And it will not be a triumph for one person's vanity and ambition, or for any self-serving faction or party. Rather, it will be a victory for the sovereignty and self-government of the whole free people of the United States.
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darth frosty
These 2 videos make very good points on the absurdaty of birthers and their real motivation. I love the corelation they both make to when blacks had to show their 'papers' to vote or just walk or drive down the street.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX5ueEKsSWc&feature=player_embedded
Why Obama shouldn't have had to 'show his papers'
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=97e_1303965982
read the comments of this vid to see the extent of the ignorance.http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=97e_1303965982
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Looks Like Trump's Right: How the Hell Did This President Get Into Those Ivy League Schools?
Politics
- "The dean looked over Barack's transcript and college boards and then suggested in a kindly way that he apply to some less competitive colleges in addition to Columbia."
- "There were no class rankings at his high school, but Barack never made honor roll even one term, unlike 110 boys in his class."
- "His SAT scores were 566 for the verbal part and 640 for math. Those were far below the median scores for students admitted to his class at Columbia: 668 verbal and 718 math."
- "At Columbia, Barack Obama distinguished himself primarily as a hard partier, and he managed to be detained by police twice during his university years: once for stealing a Christmas wreath as a fraternity prank and once for trying to tear down the goalposts during a football game at Princeton."
- "Obama's transcript at Columbia shows that he was a solid C student. Although a history major, he sampled widely in the social sciences and did poorly in political science and economics while achieving some of his best grades (the equivalent of a B+) in philosophy and anthropology. The transcript indicates that in Obama's freshman year, the only year for which rankings were available, he was in the twenty-first percentile of his class—meaning that four-fifths of the students were above him. Yet at the same time that he was earning Cs at Columbia, Obama displayed a formidable intelligence in another way. At his induction into the Delta Kappa Epsilon (DKE) fraternity, he and others were asked to name all fifty-four pledges in the room. Most were were able to name only five or six. When it was Obama's turn, he named every single one. Later he rose to become president of DKE, and he was also tapped into Skull and Bones, an elite secret society to which his father had also belonged."
And then he somehow got into Harvard for graduate school.
Oh, wait.
My bad.
I made a mistake.
Please replace the reference to "high school" with "Andover."
Please replace "Columbia" with "Yale."
Please replace "Barack Obama" with "George W. Bush."
Thanks.
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Juan Viejo2
Darth Frosty - thank you for sharing that video. That young man nailed it. He is right on point.
Makes me worry for the future of our country. It really does.
I too, "am heartbroken over this..."
JV
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royemunson
I have rarely commented on this board since 2001, but I will indulge myself here. I have attended numerous Tea Parties and the dislike for Obama is NOT about race!! It has everything to do with the policies of this administration. I am truely concerned for this country and what will be left for my children!! I grew up in the 1970's and Americans have been asleep at the wheel while politicians have been selling our country down the river. We are wide awake now and engaged. We will work within the system to replace socialist marxist from our local government, on up to the national level.
A great majority of conservatives in the Tea Party endorse candidates like Col. Allen West, and Herman Cain both African-American men. So, no this is not about race, it is about the survival of our great republic!
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BizzyBee
darth,
Thanks for sharing this video. This young man has spoken very poignantly and from his heart. This is indeed a sad turn of affairs.
We are wide awake now and engaged.
Indeed.
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darth frosty
For royemunson I hear what you are saying but where was these people when bush was leading us into a BS 'war on terror'?!?
As far as politicians they are merely following the course established aa long time ago. This is a PDF to a book called Addicted to war and it does an excellent job detailing the militarism of the US.
