PROTESTS AT WATCHTOWER CONVENTIONS

by Lawrence Hughes 162 Replies latest jw friends

  • Band on the Run
    Band on the Run

    Please provide me with a citation that proves a court held she did not have informed consent. If true, a guardian should have been appointed. I don't want to rain on anyone's parade but many things make no sense. It could be that I've only seen small portions of the matter. If she lost informed consent, the courts would allow proceedings against the WT.

    Others have posted that arsenic is used for palliative cancer treatment. I assume it alleviates suffering in some way. Also, for damages to ensure, one would have to prove direct causation. Her death is the direct result of the actions of the WT. This is hard to prove when someone has a terminal illness that is the direct cause of death.

    Why can't an abstract be placed online? There is certainly interest. No buzz words. Just facts. Legal theory. What the law actually is in Canada. No version I've read makes sense. If it were my daughter, I don't know if I could do it.

    Someday, maybe her favorite charity, other than the Witnesses, can be supported. Perhaps you could donate copies of her favorite nonWitness book to a library. I would be beyond angry and beyond rage were it my daughter. Seems to me that a pr campaign against overreaching by the Witnesses. TV interviews, magazine articles about cults. The blood doctrine cannot be attacked b/c of the First Amendment. The way they overreach with the cards, brothers checking in, etc. separation from nonJW family. People should hear this. It is symbolic of the Borg. If people heard you, they would not be so friendly when they answer their doors. With life and death at stake, there should be an arms' length relationship. They assert an in your lap relationship.

  • Mad Sweeney
    Mad Sweeney

    Please provide me with a citation that proves a court held she did not have informed consent. If true, a guardian should have been appointed. I don't want to rain on anyone's parade but many things make no sense. It could be that I've only seen small portions of the matter. If she lost informed consent, the courts would allow proceedings against the WT.

    Why did you come out swinging so hard against Mr. Hughes if you don't even know what happened?

    Google is your friend.

    "However, Mr. Hughes, a former member of the religious sect, and the Alberta government argued successfully in several courts that the teen was not mature enough to make her own health-care decisions. She received 38 court-ordered blood transfusions, but when doctors dramatically reduced her prospect for recovery, a Provincial Court judge refused to extend provincial guardianship to force further treatment."~The Globe and Mail, June 20, 2008

  • mouthy
    mouthy

    Oh dear!!!just read some of your comments about the NUTS that picket.
    Shake hands with a nut. Doing it on Sat 12 noon. As for taking of my clothes??

    I dont think that would work...Sorry you all think it is useless. I'm STILL gonna do it.

  • koolaid-man
    koolaid-man

    Good for you Mouthy , it would be encouraging to see more on this forum stand up and pubicly expose The Watchtower Org. for the atrocities they have caused in so many lives.

    The Watchtower Organization is more of a threat to the worlld than most people think.

    If one quarter of fomer Witnesses Would be strong and fearless like you Mouthy, The Org. would be out of business tomorrow!

    Keep standing tall and may you be a source of inspiration for all the people posting on this board.

  • mouthy
    mouthy

    No Rick!!! Most on the board have let me know I am NUTS!!! But I love the Jehovahs Witnesses
    I know the 25 years I was one. I too would have died for the organization..I only do it
    because as your sign says.They break up families. I dont expect to cuddle my daughter again or
    my granddaughter or the new greatgrandson,WHY????? Because I dont believe Jesus came invisably
    in 1914.So the Organization told them I am the DEVILS TOOL.At 84,( they are 65,25,6months)I LONG
    to hold them once again ,cuddle them as I did for many,many years.
    Most think that seeing an old brod like me standing outside a staduim where HUNDREDS are
    supposedly worshiping Jehovah shows how stupid I am,But those who watched the ARK being
    built made fun too.Noah was a nut in their eyes also... Weather I am right or wrong.I PRAY
    some one entering the assembly with pray for insight into what is said,Not about weather they
    can celebrate Christmas, can they vote,can they say happy Mothers, Fathers day,
    can they enter a religious building if one in their family is getting married,funeral, so many rules
    yet MY LORD gave me two. LOVE GOD first,& (Do unto others as we want them to do for you)
    & love your neighbour as yourself...TWO!!!!!!! I wish I had listened to the picketers I saw when
    I was a really believing Jehovahs Witness for so long.they kicked me out two years after my hubby
    died.....He had told me for years....."They dont look after widows woman,so when I kick it your
    on your own""""A TRUE Prophet.....

  • Broken Promises
    Broken Promises
    It would also speak volumes for the character of my criticizers if they would step out from their monkey costumes and cartoon avatars and have the courage to identify themselves.

    Says he who has a cartoon avatar. Hey bigmouth, why don't you change YOUR avatar? Can't do it? Well, so can't many others so what does that say about your claims?

    You are a bully, and like most bullies, you are really a coward who uses bullying tactics to try to intimidate people. Sorry mate, but it's not working. People are smarter than what you take them for. We can see through your facade. Your tactics are no different to the WT's so we know a bully when we see one.

  • koolaid-man
    koolaid-man

    BP...... at least you know who I am. for all we know you could be a Bethite working in the I.T. department monitoring this site.

  • Band on the Run
    Band on the Run

    I am NOT swinging hard at Mr. Hughes. My training tells me something is not kosher. I read the newspaper accounts and more. It does not need to become my full time job. There is nothing hostile about asking questions. Questions any legally trained person would ask. There is a great divergence between his claims, which are understandbly confused, and reading the summary judgments upheld by appellate courts.

    If I recall, the WTs is no longer part of this suit b/c he could not state a claim against them, viewed in the light most favorable to Mr. Hughes.

    People find financing for lawsuits routinely. I received financing for a simple slip and fall. I have yet to read a cogent article here about what happened, the claims, the law, the possible resolutions. The newspapers did a decent job but the articles were short.

    When I am too emotinally close to a subject, I don't write about it. The Apostle Paul got very short shrift from me in NT.

    If questoins need to be asked of the Watchtower, questions need to be asked of someone soliciting money. As I have stated to others, I do not post for you. Your approval is not my goal. People can differ, raise questions, and respect one another.

  • OUTLAW
    OUTLAW
    BP...... at least you know who I am. for all we know you could be a Bethite working in the I.T. department monitoring this site.......KoolAidMan

    For all we know,your not Smart Enough to Find the WBT$ Address..

    So you Protest the WBT$ in Front of Empty Trailer Lots..

    Just so you Know..WBT$ Bethel is in Brooklyn..

    Buy a Map..

    ........................ ...OUTLAW

  • shamus100
    shamus100

    Look at the movement! Oh, nobody there to support you? It must be people with monkey avatars fault, not your own.

    Try harder. Don't be angry that I didn't go on your internet radio show.

    Oh, and as a post-script, I WANT TO GET RID OF THIS FREAKING MONKEY AVATAR BUT CAN'T BECAUSE THIS SOFTWARE WON'T LET ME! It's a curse I say, A CURSE!!!

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