Who's the most intolerant religious group? (page 6)

satinka

All patriarchal religions are dangerous because they downgrade women.

I look forward to a time when religions no longer exist. People's consciences will guide them in a healthy way, without religion.

Only spirituality shall remain.

satinka

When it comes to Muslims, it's probably good to look at history. They started out intolerant, but then decided if non-muslims paid a tax they would leave them alone. This was in the middle ages. Christians repaid the kindness by launching the Crusades to take the holy land, and the Inquistion to expel them from Christian lands. There is a history. I'm not saying in any way that this makes things okay. I'm just saying it would be good to understand that history in order to understand the hatred.

I am concerned about the extremism in Islam--it's deadly. Extremism in any religion is deadly and frankly the extreme religious right makes me nervous too. They threaten and kill abortion doctors, and in my eyes it makes me realize that killing is definitely on the agenda. it's only a matter of time before they will find some other issue worth murdering for.

Where there is religion hatred follows. Where there are people, imbalance follows. Mix them and you have ticking time bombs. It's even more dangerous when politics and theology marry each other. This is what the Christian right is trying to do in the US--and if they make headway there is no telling where it will stop.

So I suppose that in all religions I find intolerance and tolerance. It's an individual thing. Some religions attract more extremists than others. JW's don't recognize any other religion as being valid, but they aren't likely to get violent. While the Mormons have violence in their history, they are unlikely to get violent today. Right now today, i worry about fanatical Muslims and conservative Christians. That could change tomorrow, but that's who give me the shivers.

NC

Qcmbr

Surely the adjective intolerant must be paired with it's target to be able to discuss this. For example the JW institution seems to be very tolerant of pedophiles whereas most individual JWs would not be tolerant of child abuse.

When it comes to belief maybe intolerance would be a 'good' thing. Bible God seems to suggest so since he jealously fought for his way even authorising genocide to ensure that no other views dared be considered. Jesus is equally intolerant condemning all opposing views to his own even to the point of saying you must be willing to give up your life for the cause. Indeed aren't lukewarm people puked up?

I would like to suggest we should all be intolerant of immorality. Not the bible kind (bible god like Koran god are spiteful, immoral and tyrannical oppressors of mankind) but immorality as defined by rational logical thought.

Thus I suggest we be intolerant of beliefs that value and divide people based upon gender preference, skin colour, wealth, opportunity, education, fashion, intellect and looks. I suggest we be intolerant of myth, magic, superstition, supernatural explanation, lies, fraud, indeed all things demonstrably provable as not natural. I would like to see much less respect for religious babble and not to tolerate it in our education establishments, our public institutions and our scientific world. For too long the religious have been allowed to be intolerant to truth, science, rational thought and have taken pious delight in oppressing humanity.

Sometimes it's good to have a grown up conversation but you almost always get side-tracked by some fairytale believer and we have to spend all our efforts refuting magic invisible people.

godrulz

thinkaboutit: I have said that anti-trinitarian modalists can be saved because they strongly affirm the Deity of Christ, the salvific issue (unlike JWs who deny it). Modalism is heretical, but not as far gone as Arianism. Salvation is based on trusting the real Jesus, not articulating the details of the trinity. UPC (oneness group) is divisive and legalistic. They would not consider myself a Christian necessarily. I have often thought it is a good match up to have a JW and a UPC in a cage. UPC actually does a good job defending the Deity of Christ from Scripture and JWs are right to call them on saying Jesus is the Father (WT tends to refute oneness more than trinitarianism in their lame arguments without realizing the distinctions; WT really attacks a straw man view of the trinity that I would also reject).

Podobear

Definitely "Born-Again" anythings, in my experience Baptists, Pentecostals and Evangelicals. The average JW is schooled to brush the dust of their feet and walk away from confrontation.

At the age of 25 I was confronted with two Baptist ministers either side of the house in which I stayed. They were also members of the KKK. Scarey for a young Brit. like me.

I guess first impressions count for a lot.

tenyearsafter

LOL Quarterback...I think the conditions in many parts of the world would be vastly better if they followed Shania Law instead of Sharia Law!

designs

Any religion that holds to the concept of a Judgement Day, it sets the dynamics in place of us against the all 'others'.

Robdar

Muslims without a doubt.

satinka

NewChapter wrote:

Some religions attract more extremists than others. JW's don't recognize any other religion as being valid, but they aren't likely to get violent.

JWs are "extremists" in another way. What about the extreme practice of shunning that results in suicide? Getting "cut off" from your family and friends in a second is based on the scripture in Liviticus 24 which talks about stoning of Apostates. JWs take that to mean you must treat Apostates as dead. Maybe not in a literal way do the JWs kill, but the result might be the same namely, suicide. Could the JWs not be viewed as "blood guilty" for their unwarranted judgment? I say "unwarranted" because no human has the right to judge another. The result of "shunning" is (sometimes) violent death because of religious action.

satinka

dgp

This thread could end with some people agreeing that Religious Group 1 is worse than Religious Group 2, or in disagreement as to whether 1 is worse than 2, and maybe -since humans are so creative- even in a different outcome. I would like to submit to you the idea that any intolerance due to religion is to be frowned upon, however mild, or however mild it might appear compared to others. I think this is the point we should not miss.

Who's the most intolerant religious group?

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