A simple way to tell God probably doesn't exist (page 8)

FlyingHighNow

But then have the audacity to say that other people (say a HIV kid or a starving child in Africa or a sex slave living through repeated rape as a teenager) are not having their prayers answered becuase maybe they're better off for it?!

These are your words. No one said they are better off for it. I am sure God feels, just as we do, that these are terrible situations. Do you think he has to be some genie or Santa Clause who just fixes everything simply because we think it's the best way? Otherwise he must not exist or doesn't care about us? Everything is much more complex and complicated than that. Everyone knows that if we could travel back in time and change one event, it would ripple and change the future.

FlyingHighNow

Prodigal Son, your posts are interesting. I will try to remember to come back and read them more closely. It's nice to see something with a different twist on a thread like this.

breakfast of champions

POOR PLACES - yes, I am a bit of a Wilco fan, have seen them live a few times. Looking fwd to the new album. Don't know if I can make any of the shows....

I do like Poor Places ( the song ) as well as all of YHF. One of my fav albums.

stillstuckcruz

I alway felt the same way. I feel that people who pray and experience supposed "answers" and effects are under the placebo effect.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Placebo

Of course im not completely ruling out God's existense. I just have no idea.

stillstuckcruz

Another thought: The israelites and all others who saw acts of God had good enough reason to serve God. Moses-burning freakin' bush. Israelites- HUGE parted freakin' waters! Believe me, if I saw that today, I would drop everything and pray...as would many others because they know. Now its just too uncertain. Theres not enough visible evidence for me to devote my ENTIRE life to serving the unknown. Faith or not.

Heaven

Here's a great experiment. Tell God, in your most humblest and sincere of prayers, that you're going to prove to the entire world that he does exist.

Tell him you'll saw your left arm off, then pray to him to have him regenerate the arm, and then he can perform his ultimate miracle by actually doing what you ask, resolving this centuries old issue once and for all.

Edited to add: We want video footage please.

wobble

Damn!! I sawed the right arm off, blood all over the place, is this going to work, I mean, does God restore right arms ?

Heaven

Wobble, left arm... I said left. Sorry man, God doesn't do right arms. Better call The War Amps.

designs

Note to Michael T.A.: 'Left Arms on Tuesday Right Arms on Wednesday' God

Sulla

Another thought: The israelites and all others who saw acts of God had good enough reason to serve God. Moses-burning freakin' bush. Israelites- HUGE parted freakin' waters! Believe me, if I saw that today, I would drop everything and pray...as would many others because they know. Now its just too uncertain. Theres not enough visible evidence for me to devote my ENTIRE life to serving the unknown. Faith or not.

No, you wouldn't.

Here's a great experiment. Tell God, in your most humblest and sincere of prayers, that you're going to prove to the entire world that he does exist.
Tell him you'll saw your left arm off, then pray to him to have him regenerate the arm, and then he can perform his ultimate miracle by actually doing what you ask, resolving this centuries old issue once and for all.

"I humbly and sincerely command you, Lord: Dance, monkey! Now, bitch!"

Though, I must say, supposing the healing of a self-inflicted wound to be the "ultimate miracle" incites a reaction in me that is hard to explain. It's, like, what sort of God would allow himself to be bossed around by some punk-ass because He was so needy that he wanted everybody to know he really was, like, super powerful? Except for being bossed around by the punk-ass and being really needy, that is.

A simple way to tell God probably doesn't exist

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