What is "truth" - COULD Einstein Have Been Wrong?

by AGuest 197 Replies latest jw friends

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  EntirelyPossible

  That is Shelby (SA). you may have missed, at the top he says he is quoting.
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  AGuest

  I don't know "Futureman" (I don't think), dear Q... and I've never seen that sight. And I'm 51, BTW... well, for another 1.5 weeks, at least - :) So, no, he ain't me (although, keep in mind, it has been brought to my attention that some have taken posts from this site... mine and others'... and posted them elsewhere as their own. Happens all the time. No worries on my part, however, so long as God and/or Christ is glorified - "He that is not against you is for you"...)

  On another note, though, I had logged off and turned off my computer (to go get ready for an appointment)... and my Lord stopped me and asked me a question, which I would like to ask YOU. His words were:

  "If they are so concerned with my name, child... and that the one in their 'Bible' must be used... why is that they do not call me by the names given them by the Prophets in such 'Bible'? Why do they use a name given them not only after I gave up my life, but ascended to the Father? It is not the name I gave them... nor the name given them in the Writings. If they were truly concerned with what the Writings say... they would use what the Writing give. But they still look in vain... and hear, without hearing."

  Now, I started to just keep preparing for my appointment... and perhaps address then when I returned home; however, they were intriguing questions and ones I thought you... or some others... might appreciate. May I ask, dear one: do you know what name(s) Chirst was prophesied to be called by? I offer to you... that the name "Jesus" is not the name by which my Lord made himself known to his disciples. They wouldn't have even understood such a name... because it is supposedly the "English" rendering for his Hebrew name. But there was NO ENGLISH at that time.

  Even so, the English transliteration of HIS name... is not "Jesus", dear one. It is "Joshua," which name he was called by [the Prophet] Zechariah. The other name was, in English, "Immanuel" (or "Imma'nu El" in Hebrew). Either of these... in their English OR Hebrew form... is accurate... and appropriate. Neither, however, are used by the... masses. Why IS that? Could it be because they don't really KNOW the One they're claiming to call upon?

  Sure, "Jesus" is the name I once thought was accurate, too. And used. But, as in my illustration of the stack of films, it was during the process of getting to know my Lord than I came to know what his name TRULY is. It is like, say, you call me "Sheba" (because you don't really GET that it's "Shelby"). Because everyone YOU know calls me that, or it's the name you were given by another when we met and I didn't immediately correct them before we parted ways and so you go off THINKING that's my name and using it every time you refer to me. However, that's not actually my name. True, I may answer to that the next time I see you but mostly because it's just not worth my effort (nor do I care enough) to correct you. I mean, if you don't bother to even ask... then I will assume you're not REALLY interested but just one of those folks who tend to get people's names wrong.

  Those who KNOW me, however, would know that that's not really my name... and not only call me by my real name... but probably try to (kindly) correct you. At least, those who REALLY care about/love me. They would BOTHER to state my name correctly... rather than giving a "Oh, don't take it wrong; I'm just bad with names" kind of attitude. What, though, if you believe the person who first gave you the name... but not the one who now tells you it is incorrect? What if YOU don't WANT to hear another name... because you've grown used to the one you've been using? Or just don't WANT to change what you're using? Who is that on, exactly?

  If you truly WANT to know Christ's real name, dear one... just ask him. Assuming you believe he exists, lives... and will answer. Because in such instance, he will reveal it to you himself. If you truly WANT to know.

  If you don't really want to know, however... don't really care... it's not important to YOU... then don't be surprised that "Jesus" is the only name that rings "true" with you. Because YOU are saying that that's the only name YOU want to know of... and regardless of whether it's accurate or not.

  I hope this helps and, again and as always... peace to you!

  YOUR servant and a slave of Christ, the Holy One of Israel and Holy Spirit, JAHESHUA, the Chosen One of JAH (MischaJah) and the One who came in the name of God ("JAH"),

  SA
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  AGuest

  That is Shelby (SA). you may have missed, at the top he says he is quoting.

  Ahhhhh... THANK you, dear EP (the greatest of love and peace to you, my bruh!), for clearing that up. I thought it might be something like that. Funny, he (and a lot of others) think I am a "brother" - LOLOLOL! What is UP with that?? I am grateful, however, that he called me "anonymous." Because, again, none of this is about ME. Goodness, I will be quite grateful when THAT truth is cleared up, as well!

  Peace!

  YOUR servant and a slave of Christ,

  SA
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  Qcmbr

  Dear Utuna the reason that I have brought this up about Joseph in comparison to Jesus is because of another post made by an anonymous brother on another Jehovah's witness related forum.
  I have not being able to find his post since that time.
  Perhaps it has being moderated out, I don't know, but it certainly has got me wondering now about who really is that "faithful and discreet slave" or servant.

  EP - thanks - yes I totally missed this!! AGuest you are off the hook ;) .. and you're famous

  If you truly WANT to know Christ's real name, dear one... just ask him. Assuming you believe he exists, lives... and will answer.

  Because in such instance, he will reveal it to you himself. If you truly WANT to know.

  You got me - I don't believe any such supernatural creature exists. You might ask your Joshua why he hasn't manifest himself in such a way that I would be able to recognise him , does he care enough for me to do this? You see I'm not raising the bar high - I don't need anything overtly miraculous just something tangible - would be great to get my wife in on it too since she'll give me a double witness (I'll leave the detail in his hands since he must know me better than I know myself)!
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  EntirelyPossible

  no problem
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  AGuest

  You might ask your Joshua why he hasn't manifest himself in such a way that I would be able to recognise him , does he care enough for me to do this?

  He DOES care, dear one (again, peace to you!)... but he IS, after all, a spirit. In order to manifest in the way you seem to need... he would have to either put on flesh... or manifest to YOUR flesh. The first won't happen; however, YOU have to exercise faith FIRST... and accept him AS the spirit he is... before you will most likely receive the second. Because he did all of that "manifesting" once before... and didn't change a thing for more than few...

  You see I'm not raising the bar high -

  Nor is he, dear one. Indeed, his "bar" is much lower than yours. Why don't you try going that route, first? I mean, seeing as he IS the Son of God, and all, and you (like me)... are currently "lower" than angels. I mean, he IS due SOME reverence, for no other reason than that, yes? Surely, you would give such accord to say, Prince Charles... a mere man. If Charles' servants said, "Well, look here, Q... there ARE protocols"... you wouldn't even flinch, but breathlessly reply, "Yes, sir! What ARE they? Tell me, please, right away, so that I may comply!" Otherwise, your likelihood of seeing the Prince is... well, slim to none. Yes?

  I don't need anything overtly miraculous just something tangible -

  What you fail to see, though, dear one... is that YOU are one who "needs". He doesn't NEED to see you or have YOU manifest to HIM. It's the other way around. In that light, I should think you would at least CONSIDER "condescending" from you [very high] "human" condition... so as to "come down" to his level. Yes? Or... perhaps you're the type that would prefer to try and bring him down HERE... rather than "raising" yourself so as to be able to go up THERE. Meaning, transcend...

  would be great to get my wife in on it too since she'll give me a double witness

  Actually, I think that she would not only GET all of this... but actually have what YOU'RE asking for occur with her... before you do. Only because women tend to have just a tad more faith (well, sometimes a buttload more)... than men. Gets men in trouble all the time, too...

  (I'll leave the detail in his hands since he must know me better than I know myself)!

  If you are serious, dear Q... TRULY serious and not just blowing wind... if you REALLY want to see/hear my Lord... then start with just a tad bit of faith. Meaning, you have to at least believe he is. And by "he"... I mean the Holy One of Israel and Holy Spirit... the One who "comes in the name of JAH"... and not "Jesus." That doesn't take much faith, truly. Then, ask the MOST Holy One of Israel, JAH of Armies... to send you HIS truth. Not man's truth, HIS truth. And when that One comes to you... don't dismiss him. Don't convince yourself that it's NOT occurring "because if it is you must be crazy", etc. Exercise FAITH. Answer when you're called. Don't "rationalize" it... but rise to it.

  And if you need help believing that he is, I might be able to help. Maybe, maybe not - it's not up to me; I cannot draw you to Christ - only God does that. But... you have my number if I CAN be of assistance.

  Again, peace to you, truly...

  YOUR servant, as I am servant to ALL those of the Household of God, Israel, and those who go with... and a slave of Christ,

  SA
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  Qcmbr

  So 30+ years of believing and having faith wasn't enough already?

  Sorry - no can do on the faith - you see - your J failed me previously when I was utterly ready and by that repeated failure to aid me in my faithful state he forever ruined any way that he could be approached by faith anymore - you see his lack of response planted doubt where non previously existed and the logical conclusion of non-existence - now I require evidence of a physical nature and if J isn't willing to give it then he doesn't exist or doesn't care about me since he would know exactly what I asked and when I asked it.. and no you don't know AGuest - that's between me and J :)

  By his failure he has proven his non-existence at least as a being who responds to faith. You may wish to ask him about this. You may also wish to point out that if he desires me back on side I am more than willing to hop the fence and as an all powerful being he must surely can see how much I could be of use (whereas now I must be a monumental pain in the butt having already got my two oldest daughters to stop believing plus causing my wife serious doubts) and how if he doesn't do anything he will have single handidly failed me in both states - as a faithful believer and as skeptical atheist. At any future judgement I will quite honestly be able to say J ignored me both ways and then I'll plead provable ignorance and justice will be forced to let me in!
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  AGuest

  So 30+ years of believing and having faith wasn't enough already?

  Of believing and having faith in WHO, dear Q... and WHAT? Surely, it wasn't the Most Holy One of Israel, JAH of Armies, or in His Son, the Holy One of Israel and Holy Spirit, JAHESHUA, His Chosen One... or in His breath, blood, or semen/seed (holy spirit)... or in the flesh and blood of Christ (which you would have partaken of, if you DID have such faith, but I'm thinking you didn't...)?

  Look, you were lied to, yes. For more than 30 years. So what? MANY, although "called" as children waited DECADES before actually getting to KNOW God... before hearing or seeing "Him". Twenty-seven years for my Lord himself to receive HIS "token"... God's holy spirit.

  So, you're out of all of that now... and no longer touching the unclean thing. Do you really mean to say that it's "too late"? That too much time has passed and so unless you receive a manifestation of YOUR... ummmm... wanting... you will NOT believe? I mean, I get it that Thomas was allowed to pull that card... but Thomas has already EXERCISED his faith... when he dropped everything and followed my Lord (and his).

  You, however, followed... what? Who? The WTBTS? The GB/FDS? Fred Franz? Nathan Knorr? The Pope (I dunno)? Religion?

  Who, though, is the BLAME for that? You... and those you (and I) followed. But not God (or Christ), dear one. If either of us had bothered to DO what those who misled us SAID... and really sought GOD... we would have been found MUCH sooner than (I was/you may be).

  I mean, if you're done... you're done. If nothing else will suffice for you... nothing else will suffice for you. So long as you recognize that, one again, it is YOU who are making the choice... not God or Christ. As they didn't make it for you before.

  Again, peace to you, dear Q!

  YOUR servant and a slave of Christ,

  SA
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  Qcmbr

  Convenient - but run it by J anyway. Night.
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  AGuest

  J who? What J? Does J exist? Otherwise, how can I run anything by "him"? WHY would I run anything by something/one that doesn't exist? To whom/what are you referring?

  (Don't try to make this my "issue", dear one... or MY responsibility...)

  Peace!

  A slave of Christ,

  SA