by oompa 20 Replies latest jw friends
When a JW knocks on your door and you ask them tough Questions..
They say they are busy and have to leave..
How can you possibly start Bible Studys..
When you knock on doors to tell people your too busy to talk to them..Then leave..
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...OUTLAW
Why do JW's have to look at the origins of everything, such as holidays or music to see if it had bad origins, but the origins of THEIR particular religion doesn't matter?
Mr Freeze, simple but powerful.
i cant do this to her anymore....it makes me physically sick to see...that she then fears me like Satan himself....and so I am starting very very complicated seperation and settlement proceedings that will finally end this unevenly yoked marriage
It's absolutely none of my business, of course, dear Oompa (again, peace to you!), but this is how you choose to show her that you love her (which I deduece from your inability to "do this to HER anymore")? There really is NO way you can continue to live with her... and simply let her "do her thing" with the WTBTS... while living the life YOU'VE come to know as truer/realer... with the HOPE of having her turn around simply by observing YOU? Why not show her that you're NOT Satan: be GOOD to her... better than you ever were... or could have been... as a JW?
Again, none of my business and may be much more here than what meets [my] eye, so just putting it out there.
Again, peace to you... and your household!
A slave of Christ,
SA
aguest....what is the sa at the end of your post? ...i see we have both been here quite a bit.....i am not a slave anymore btw and that term "a slave of christ" just freaks me out for some reason...no offense i hope....i just wanted you to know it gives me a weird feeling....right now i cant imagine anyone wanting to be a slave to anybody.....but i now just realized when i wrote that that i am totaly wrong!!! i recently watched a period piece series on tv...Sparticus....or some similar gladiator days when of course there were slaves and in fight i believe most of the gladiators were slaves even....but anyhoo as i totataly digress from this thread....then just realized i am a slave kinda....i have debt and i kind am a slave to them and our entire monetary system....and i slave to stay young....mentally at least
but anyway you are dead on and this is exactly what i am doing....and i am nice now and avoid jw talk.....we love each other enough..... but for me i have had to face reality and make a painful conclusion....it is not healthy mentally or emotionally for us to live together as husband and wife due to this crazy "non-social as a couple state of marriage"..... so I have no choice but to separate and/or divorce and i will be as nice and fair as i can....and btw i am being nice to my many jw employees still despite them not treating me as equal co-workers as requied by law btw......we have not had a cross word in a couple of weeks....i bring her coffee still in the morning...but i dont sleep with her or share our nice big bathroom anymore....i have my man cave and plenty of room in my end of the house and she has hers....we still cook together sometimes....she eats with her tv and i eat with mine most of the time....good roomates we would be except that even good roomates get to have their friends over and even enjoy spending time with them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!DAMM i just realized we are not even NORMAL GOOD ROOMATES!!!!! calling my lawer again today...have not in one year....but it is time...thanks to my boys...and all your support here....i have to do it....thank goodness for clarity...and sobriety...and therapy....and having all that weight off my chest....whew....i gladly and proudly accept the term apostate and am soooo glad i disassociated myself....getting dfd for a wandering penis is just so blas'e...oops that french youngins...it means jaded, nonchalant, unimpressed, casual, trite
btw i am also being nice still to my many jw employees despite them not treating me as equal co-workes as required by law...one will not ride to jobsites with me!....one refused to help me with a house search...i truly love these people like my own family....i still do and always will....she is a realtor....said she could work for "your corporation under this arrangement, and it does not bother my conscience...but as a realtor i CHOOSE who i work with"....i love this woman and have for over 25 years....i wish our children could have married...i wanted her newborn son Damon to grow up with my newborn son...but Damon died only one week old while my friends went to court to prevent a blood transfusion he needed for an immediate heart operation....daman and my boy are 23 years old now....and tears are dripping off my cheeks for many minutes now.....god it hurts sometime...and no i am not really talking to you.....oompa
(((((oompa)))))
Let the tears flow. You have much to grieve over.
Oompa,
Often JWs will defend the religion from criticism by others even though they have their own unexpressed doubts.
Have you tried an extended period of not discussing religion with your wife at all?
When she brings it up, be polite but see how quickly you can let the subject die out.
When there's an opening to point out some contradiction or hypocrisy of the WT, just say nothing.
Maybe you'd tried all this to no avail, but sometimes the best approach with JWs is to do everything you can to avoid feeding their "faithful and discreet slave" fixation.
It is astounding that people of Faith can state with absolute certainity that the Bible is the inspired word of God while ignoring plain sense
statements of an obvious meaning.
I don't remember what year it was that I finally figure out the difference between "meaning" and "interpretation".
My grandfather use to tell what he thought was a funny joke:
"A travelling salesman walks down a country road and comes to a farmhouse surrounded by a barbed wire fence with a huge sign in giant red letters:
NO SALESMEN ALLOWED ON THESE PREMISES! TRESSPASSERS WILL BE SHOT!
The salesman shrugs and opens the gate and walks up to the door and knocks.
His knock is answered by a shotgun blast from inside.
As the saleman lays dying on the old farmer's porch the shotgun toting farmer leans down and asks bewilderedly:
"Didn't you read my sign?"
The saleman coughs up blood and answers, "Sure, but--it didn't say ABSOLUTELY!"
The strong temptation to interpret around plain sense is quite common among JW's.
AGUEST: Why not show her that you're NOT Satan: be GOOD to her... better than you ever were... or could have been... as a JW?
OOMPA--I imagine from your posts that you & your wife are a few years younger than we are, but still it sounds like you have many years invested in what has been a loving marriage. Most all of us would "condemn" a witness who decided to break up their marriage because their spouse refused to become a witness. Yet, that is basically what you are considering -- breaking up your marriage because your wife refuses to become a non-witness. I would suggest you examine if you are taking out your frustrations about the religion on your wife & your marriage. We have come to terms in our household that we do not discuss the JW fallacies. Yes, sometimes it's the elephant in the room, but we both agree to step around it.
We have friends who are of different religious persuasions, but who manage a happy sucessful marriage -- Jewish, Protestant for example. It helps that neither are fanatical about their religion, but they agree to disagree on the subject of religion. Is there a possiblity of you and your wife coming to such terms?
DOC
DesirousOfChange....uhhhhhhhhh nope!....not taking out any frustrations of the religion on my wife....this is logic not frustration....she is not happy being married to a non jw period. i am not happy being married to one who will not accept my friends...even though i can accept hers....and that is just not the recipe for a normal healthy marriage..............but thanks...i tried everything except going back.....oompa
