It's Time For The Governing Body To Be Removed

by DT 20 Replies latest jw friends

  • Quarterback
    Quarterback

    This ORG is not a democracy, so the power that exists within it will continue for a long time. Look at other organizations that continue to do so.

    It's a Giant that could be defeated, but, there is no little David around to do it. Maybe the little David's are the news over the Child Abuse exposures, or maybe it's that trial in Australialia.

    I think that the news that comes out of the hatred for the X-members will be watered down, eventually. Their policies are being ignored already by families that are disobeying this command. The Society knows that families are ignoring this, because that is why they are fighting back in print and their strong, tough measures to end this.

    Remember the Bookstudy arrangement in homes. For years the Society kept preaching about attending this meeting as something important. I can't remember how many times the CO would visit and ask the Elders why this meeting was poorly attended. I finally asked the CO, Why? How is it in other congregations? He said, that it was the same. It was time that killed that Bookstudy. Now it's a twisted story about a family worship night.

    Just wait, things will change. GB members will die. A new generation thought, The mystery of the Ten Toes revealed at a future convention. A/Pioneering dropped to permanently 30 hrs per month. Greater freedom to associate with DA/DF family members. etc.

  • Band on the Run
    Band on the Run

    I was thinking what is Jehovah's Witnesses? I don't know. They chose corporate structures to shield themselves from liability. I have a sense of what Roman Catholicism is. In my mind, it is not the Pope or the curia. In my mind, I think of all the Catholics globally and their doctrines that hold them together. B/c of the emphasis on tradition, working without the Pope would be very difficult but it can be done. It was done in communist China and Eastern Europe. There are essentially legally separate churches in the East that recognize the Pope.

    I know the Vatican has corporate structures, too. When I was in law school, I worked on the "hot" case in the office that involved the collapse of a large New York bank because of currency manipulation. It was an international conspiracy with witnesses flying in from Ecuador. The Vatican and a host of deep intrigue were at the Center. So the Catholic Church plays an international monetary role that I never would have known about, otherwise. Yet I can't begin to think of WT doctrine without leadership from the very top. There was no GB in my day. I can't even imagine it without Knorr b/c it was so deeply ingrained about his power.Yet there does seem to be a core belief system that stays the same - 1. Jesus is not God in any fashion. I can see Jesus as a highly evolved human that God adopts as his Son and presto, Christ. A spirit - strange. 2. Authority of a few men chosen by who knows from where knows. 3. Women must be subjugated. 4. Knock on doors. 5. Never have a blood transfusion. 6. Don't pay taxes but take all the wealth and benefits a government provides, yet spit in its face.

    I am curious about what safeguards there are to make certain doctrine does not change radically. With such a small ruling party, how do we know we won't wake up one day for a statement from Bethel that all Witnesses now swear allegiance to Rome b/c of New Light? My major perception of the Witnesses is as a small, antisocial group. My entire life seemed to revolve around conventions at Yankee Stadium. The Catholics might have the Vatican or St. Patricks' but we had Yankee Stadium, sacred ground in NY. We filled it. It was such a different experience to see masses of JWs instead of a small center or KH. My mom had a rule about no new commitments to JW until the convention buzz passed.

    So I am curious how others define Jehovah's Witnesses?

  • free2beme
    free2beme

    Why do you care?

  • headisspinning
    headisspinning

    I just really want to know who is planning to pocket all the money... when we figure out the gig we are going to freak.. I know it!

  • maksym
    maksym

    The watchtower society is just a corporation, a legal entity reserved in modern legal structure to evade tax purposes. Essentially they don't exist except to manipulate the minds of people.

    The whole thing is a scam. They can't be removed because they don't exist except on a piece of legal document. They hold an artificial authority over 7 million people.

    If all 7 million ignore them they all go away.

  • Joliette
    Joliette

    Dream on. It'll be a cold day in hell before that ever happens.

    Jehovahs Witnesses will NEVER (I believe, will never) be reformed.

    I could be wrong, but I highly doubt they will ever be reformed.

  • sizemik
    sizemik

    NO! . . . leave the GB alone!

    WT will never fall from the top down . . . there's scores of GB wannabes who would love to have the top job . . . and scores more lining themselves up to get in line. As long as there's good numbers of R&F regularly contributing and leaving death legacies . . . there will always be someone to sign the receipt.

    WT security is directly proportional to their numbers, which is directly proportional to the effectiveness of the leadership. Slow thinking senile leaders who make poor decisions and are bogged down by self-inflicted controversies are a gift from heaven . . . leave them there till they die. The more R&F they piss off and disillusion the better. The rot sets in at the bottom . . . then the empire falls . . . when the money runs out.

    Long live the GB!

  • jookbeard
    jookbeard

    if the Gibbering Body is removed the non anointed corporation leaders who are long institutionalized Bethelites headed by another strange weirdo Don Adams could be far worse.

  • punkofnice
    punkofnice

    It's time for the WBT$ to totally crumble by any means possible.

    Based on the princilpe that 'scum always rises to the top', I'm hoping that the GB will exert such a tight grip on the R&F that many, many more will wake up and leave.

    Replace them with a 'nicer' GB and the WBT$ will last longer bringing more misery and death to it's victims.

  • factfinder
    factfinder

    DT-

    Very good post! I agree. This new gb is running the org to the ground.

    They do not know what they are doing. As you posted, their statements & policies are creating much difficulty for the wts and causing more witnesses to leave. This gb must be impeached.

    But do the directors of the wts have any say?

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