The Father of the Lie

by sabastious 38 Replies latest jw friends

  • sabastious
    sabastious

    I don't know about the rest of the world, but from where I stand I keep hearing the same defeated language from many different people. The non believers focus on our insignificances and the believers await their paradise, whatever flavor that might be, after a tearing down rather than a building up, of course.

    The ones that wish to encourage are minimized as blind optimists and often are regarded as engaging in a fools errand. Negative language has, so far, swept through my entire existence without halting for an instant. It has been my constant companion as well as enemy. I live now and have lived in a world mainly consisting of perfectionists who cannot live in a world where they are imperfect. I live in a world where the path we tread is never as important to society as the destination, even though that has always been ultimately death.

    I live in a world of lies. Lies that are told knowingly and unknowingly, but still rob society of it's dignity and it's potential. When a lie is believed the believer's existence changes based off a falsehood. When someone's existence changes it affects the existence of others close to that person as well as a random assortment of other people. Lies also have the characteristic, especially when told knowingly, of requiring continual creation of new connected lies which increases their overall strength and lowers the possibility of the Bag of Lies being uncovered.

    Some lies are uncovered and that usually creates hostility within the human brain. We don't like lying it's not in us to lie, it's not in us to accept lies from others. What is in us is the will to survive of which we use Free Will to choose how to attain survival. Human's that lie to survive, especially on a regular basis, are causing unnatural variances in the timeline. When lies are allowed to fester within society they become strong and strong lies are even sometimes believed by the masses. We live in such times.

    Focusing on the negative of life is furthering a very long stream of lies. At this point in time we, as sentient beings, have direct responsibility to uphold truth. Any who skate this responsibility and "give up" are a threat to society at large. The Snowball Lie has been going on for millennia now, as well as have recruited many minions. A description is given of how this whole lying process works within the Genesis account, specifically the Garden of Eden and the Bible's references to it.

    The story has a serpent misleading the first humans into abandoning their safe haven given to them by their creator. The Bible then speaks of this serpent as being the "father of the lie."

    The right brain, or emotional (instinctual) brain, is the closest thing humans have in relation to the animal kingdom. For a human to tell a lie it's the right brain that has to "convince" the left brain, the logic center, before the lie can be accepted as truth by the whole system. Once accepted as truth the lie can be passed on AS truth.

    However, telling a lie knowingly, to get yourself out of a jam for example, doesn't require the teller to believe it. Pathological lying, however, is the end result of someone who has this "convincing" happen. It is these pathological persons in our world that do the bulk of the Big Lies that got the "ball rolling."

    Think of all the lies that have ever been believed as a big ball of energy that has had time to grow for tens of thousands of years. That energy is DARK and contains great power and it should not be added to even in the slightest form. So, the next time you think about telling a lie, please, if you can help it tell the truth instead.

    -Sab

  • LoneWolf
    LoneWolf

    LOL, Sabastious!

    I must agree with most of what you write. The few places that I don't is not because of your logic, but because I feel that I have a few factors that may throw a different light on certain points, and that may change your outlook on them too. (Maybe. }

    I too have been condemned for being a blind optimist (among a few hundred other things) and surrounded by negativity, but the biggest reason by far for that condemnation is that I insist on thinking for myself. Nothing that I know of will make more people mad at you quicker than thinking for yourself! They become life-long enemies.

    But - I cheerfully flaunted their disapproval and did it anyway. I figured that under all the myriad layers of lies and assorted bull$hit there had to be a layer of truth somewhere, so I kept digging until I found something that made sense - logically. It helped a lot indeed to be LoneWolf, for I didn't count on or expect any approval or encouragement from any source, and sure enough, I didn't get any.

    But whether we agree on anything or not, I appreciate the way your brain works. You keep digging in a rational manner in an effort to find understanding. Most people only want to know what they are supposed to believe and when told, swallow it hook, line, and sinker.

    To me, one of the greatest joys is a healthy frolic in the cerebral playground. It's fun to take that old brain out and let it flap in the breeze for a while and see what sort of lint it picks up. Sometimes the results will set a person right back on their heels in astonishment. You appear to be of a similar nature.

    And that brings me to something else. I'm looking for some special people. I don't want them to agree with me unless they have to. I want them to be able to look at some of my findings and tear them apart and point out the errors in fact and/or logic, for that is the only way I can continue to progress. Their observations and questions will point out those areas that need work. I understand the engineering world has a special term for such people: Logic Engineers.

    Right now I am about half way through posting a series of pieces entitled "Answer to DTRT". Those and the forerunning article "The little piss-ant panty-waist "god' " (meaning Satan) is dealing with the creation account in Genesis and shortly thereafter. DTRT is a brilliant military scientist who is willing to tackle just about any subject and his questions are the very type of things I'm looking for.

    If you or anyone else wishes to jump in and join the fun, you would be as welcome as the flowers of Spring!

    Tom

  • Farkel
    Farkel

    sab,

    You won't get many hits on your post, I'm afraid to posit. Most people are just not up to absorbing what you say. They simply don't have the attention span nor possibly the intelligence for it. But mostly, people just don't have the patience to read it.

    I'm not one of them, but I do know what is like to not to get hits on stuff that forces people to genuinely think. It happens to me all the time. I get used to it.

    Your observations were brilliant and noteworthy. Thank you.

    Lone Wolf,

    Glad to see you again!

    Farkel

  • botchtowersociety
    botchtowersociety

    Sab is a deep thinker.

  • PSacramento
    PSacramento

    Why do we lie dude?

    Fear, we lie because we are afraid of the truth, we are prisoners of lies because the truth is soemthing that we don't want to hear.

    It may be because the truth makes things OUR fault, it may be because the truth wil force us to do soemthing we don't want to, even though we need to, it may be that the truth is more painful than a lie.

    It may even be logical to lie under certain circumstances so logic, in of itself, isn't a deterant to lying.

    As for the Genesis issue, the lie was that Humans can do it alone without God, that in doing it we would become like God and it was a lie because being separate from God makes us incomplete, short sighted, hateful, violent, oppressive and so much more, why?

    Because without God we are forced to IMPOSE our will on others and when that doesn't work, we IMPOSE it violently, aggressively and of course, the others "push back" with equal or more force.

  • tec
    tec

    I really liked that, Sab. Very deep and insightful. I also agree with Psac. Fear is behind much of lying. Fear, I think, is behind much of all the negativity in this world as well. Fear of change, fear of facing the ugly truth about ourselves.

    Peace,

    Tammy

  • LoneWolf
    LoneWolf

    Glad to see you too, Farkel!

    Do you still play the pie-an-er?

    Tom

  • LoneWolf
    LoneWolf

    botchtower society -- "Happy are the deep thinkers, for they shall wield big shovels!" (Zedikiah 3:9)

  • sabastious
    sabastious
    I'm not one of them, but I do know what is like to not to get hits on stuff that forces people to genuinely think. It happens to me all the time. I get used to it.

    Thanks, Farkel, your favorable words mean a great deal to me. My wife printed out a post you made about the book of Daniel a while back. She read it out loud to me and we were laughing our a**es off. That post, now that I look back, inspired me to take an honest and critical look at not only the Watchtower, but the Bible itself. Now I'm not afraid to laugh at the Bible. Once that perspective changed it was like the whole book came to life for me. I then actually felt an urge to delve deeper into it's pages with my new set of eyes. It's a book of brilliance as well as absurdities and humans have clung on to both aspects, like they would their own child, for thousands of years.

    As far as not getting hits that's funny you would mention that. I do sometimes feel sad/mad/irritated when something I write doesn't get any "hits." But when I feel that way I always ask myself why I made the post in the first place. The answer to that is always for it to exist, which has nothing to do with hits. If it exists and is worthy the hits will come.

    -Sab

  • sabastious
    sabastious
    But whether we agree on anything or not, I appreciate the way your brain works. You keep digging in a rational manner in an effort to find understanding. Most people only want to know what they are supposed to believe and when told, swallow it hook, line, and sinker.

    I'm a programmer by trade and I think it fits me well. I have an insatiable craving for problem solving and programming is nothing but that. I do keep digging, as you say, but I just keep finding more layers of dirt to sift through. There's just too much, really, so a prioritizing of sorts has to take place, which would be a weak point for me, I hate lists and categorizing life, but it's very necessary as I have found out through living a life lacking of lists. I think I am this way because of a mix between my INFP personality type and my lack of any formal education.

    -Sab

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