I kind of like part 2's. They are the dark, dimsal heavy parts. Han Solo frozen in carbonite! Luke's hand falling "I'll Never Join YOu!" "Luke, I am your father!" Yeah, I like the middle parts.
NC
Are you sure leaving is a wise decision ?- Lurkers think twice- Part 2
by mankkeli 283 Replies latest jw experiences
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zoiks
00DAD,
Mankkeli is Alice is Consfearacy is Spade. He/she usually starts out slowly, with a few posts here and there, different stories casually thrown in. Then he/she starts to have more fun and throws out these crazy threads that get everyone riled up.
He/she will disappear again soon.
He/she has a pro-JW blog somewhere too. If I have the time I might try to find it.
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zoiks
True, NC. In the case of Star Wars, part 2 (part 5?) is by far the best!
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NewChapter
I never liked the baked beans either. Everyone claimed to have the best recipies, and everyone swooned over them. Baked beans---not happifying.
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punkofnice
What the WBT$ tells non JWs' who disagree with their religion =
Awake! 2009 July p.29 (p.28) "No one should be forced to worship in a way that he finds unacceptable or be made to choose between his
beliefs and his family."
What the WBT$ tells JWs about those who disagree with the WBT$ =
July 15 'Study Edition' WT - Well, apostates are “mentally diseased,” and they seek to infect others with their disloyal teachings.
Nov 15 'Study Edition' WT - "The prophet Elisha sent one of the sons of the prophets to anoint Jehu as king and to instruct him to kill every male of the apostate house of Ahab...............................While the term employed here “generally means ‘sacrifice,’ it is also used of the ‘slaughter’ of apostates.” "It is true that Jehu spilled much blood. Yet, the Scriptures present him as a courageous man...
OK! This is a reason the WBT$ proves it's a dangerous place to get trapped. It gives a lovey dovey public image then rants hate in the 'Study Edition' which non JWs will rarely see.
Manny, if being in the JWs works for you then good for you. Personally it doesn't work for me, I cannot be a hypocrite and stay for no good reason in a delusional dreamland.
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Hoffnung
For all the lurkers and also for Mankelli: Your life and mental health will improve after you leave Jehovah's Witnesses. And if you go smart about it, you don't have to lose your friends and/or family.
I can tell you that, because I am living this myself. And my wife would definitely agree with it.
My extended family are almost all JW, and most of them are long-time, well respected in the Organization and the male members are Elders, ministerial servants, some bethelites and ex-bethelites and some were and others are still pioneering. They all together could keep easily a team of psychiaters occupied for as long as they will live. The constant pressure they are living is not just driving them into depression, it is causing serious physical health problems too. At least 3 of them were on the brink of starvation because the emotional strain drastically reduced the functioning of the liver and the intestines. Quite a few are running from one practioner to the next, and that for many years.
Even I was draining myself in the service of the Org, depraving myself of sleep, balancing between preparing for meeting parts, attending to the sorrows of the pubs in the congo who weren't helped by the elders, service and secular work.
If I had rough times when I decided to leave, than it was caused by discovering how much I was lied to. That nothing what they claim to be promised or taught in the bible that makes JW unique, is true. It is the deep disappointment in the organisation that hurt me the hardest.
And I discovered that the majority of the people living outside the Jehovah's Witnesses also have high standards. And that you will not be their friends unless you live up to them. And that their friendship is not necessarily connected with membership of an organisation, but because they appreciate what you really are.
To please friends and family we still attend the odd meeting from time to time. Lately they turn out be so boring, so full of unfounded nonsense, that is an encouragement to stay away. (the bookstudy this week was excellent, so much conclusions drawn about Paul and Barnabas without as much as a millimeter of biblical support, it really has become a sad show). Once you have woken up, and you can see through it all, it is so sad that such good people let themselves fooled by it for so long.
If you are in the possibility, put a program in place to make yourself slowly free from this evil organisation. Give up any position you might hold, drop your service reports, reduce your meeting attendance. And start doing real research about the bible and how the witnesses misuse it. It is the best thing you can do in your life.
Thanks for Makelli for starting this thread, I am just afraid he or she won't see that (s)he is believing in fairy tales.
As I noted you live in Europe, maybe we might already have met in the real life.
Peace Bro or Sis, the Society does not need you to defend them.
Hoffnung
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Found Sheep
THAT i believe was redhaires67 or something like that... not my favorite
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Found Sheep
looking back this he/she does word things the same.... He/she sounds quite ummmm I'll just say not so bright
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thetrueone
It appears Mankkeli is well versed in superlative fear mongering and avoidance of truthful based facts.
In his this opening thread he stated that people who leave this cult come unto dire consequences such as suicide and other digressive social
behaviors. How about stating the demeaning and destructive social behaviors apparent by devout members of this particular cult.
Perhaps he should have been intellectually honest and stated how this encouraging corruptive cult has caused people to commit suicide,
due its strongly enforced self created shunning laws. Of course its wise to leave any socially and personally destructive maligning cult.
Humanity has improved the human experience greatly by separating away from religious dogma which mostly contained ignorance,
fear and superstitions.
Seems Mankkeli found himself the power of god and now he doesn't want to let it go, no matter how diversely corrupt and destructive it
is to himself or others, but then again doesn't that stereo typify the Watchtower Corporation in its entirety.
Every religion espouses that they are god's divinely chosen organization and that if people come under their subjective control and guidance,
happiness and contentment is there to be had. The WTS has just cranked this up one notch and said if you don't join are organization,
you are most likely to experience a horrible death by god himself very soon .
This self marketing worked well to manipulate and exploit people to meet their means, ominously corrupt as that may unfortunately be.
Once this is realized by people who've been lured into this cult, they're most likely quite happy in leaving it and be done with it.
The WTS was and always will be be a decisive marketing fraud designed and created by a religious publishing house.
It was created by opportunistic men endeavored to cultivate circulation of its own published works as well as to cultvate a sense of self imposed power
by taking on the identity of an organization solely chosen and sponsored by god, which again is a marketing ploy in itself.
Consider this food at the proper time Mankkeli
