Should Joe Paterno resign over the Penn State child sex abuse scandal?

by james_woods 85 Replies latest watchtower child-abuse

  • undercover
    undercover

    What do you want to bet the WTS uses this as another reason to not attend college or play football?

    I'm guessing the WTS keeps very, very quiet. They've got skeletens in their closet. If they go pointing fingers, it might come back to haunt them. Stones...glass houses thing.

    But...

    IF any JW - GB, Bethelite, elder, pioneer or plain ole regular joe schmoe publisher - were to make that connection in my presence, my response would be that that's exactly why I don't attend KH meetings anymore as well. JW Congregations are no better than Penn State in protecting innocent children from predators. Before they can go around condeming some "worldly" institution, they better take a hard look at the institution they're a part of.

  • sammielee24
    sammielee24

    Sickening. Put them all on trial - at the very, very least. Sandusky should spend the rest of his days behind bars in general population. These are the boys coming forward now, imagine how many can't or won't. sammies

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    from the ibtimes...

    Here, a timeline of the course of the explosive sex scandal and its apparent cover-up by members of the Penn State faculty.

    1977 -- Jerry Sandusky founds The Second Mile, a state-wide non-profit foundation established to help at-risk youth. The organization's web site describes it as a place to "promote self-confidence as well as physical, academic, and personal success."

    1994-1997 -- Sandusky allegedly uses The Second Mile grounds to engage in "inappropriate conduct" with three different boys he met separately through the program. One boy was 7 or 8, the second was 10, and the third was between 12 and 13. According to the grand jury report, the three boys, now grown, say Sandusky's behavior ranged from touching to overt sexual come-ons and sexual assault. Several incidents reportedly took place during home games for Penn State football, when the team, staff and the boys were all staying at a nearby hotel.

    1998 -- First police involvement. Penn State police and the Penn. Department of Public Warfare are contacted by the mother of an 11-year-old boy, who says Sandusky showered with her son and may have had inappropriate contact with him.

    June 1, 1998 -- In an interview with investigators, Sandusky admits showering naked with the pre-teen. He admits that it was wrong, and promises not to do it again. No charges are filed, and the university police chief instructs that the case be closed.

    1999 -- Sandusky retires from Penn State after coaching for 32 years. he remains a volunteer, and retains full access to the campus, football facilities, and The Second Mile camp grounds.

    2000 -- Sandusky showers with a young boy and tries to touch his genitals during overnight stays at the coach's house, according to the now 24-year-old man's testimony to the grand jury.

    2000 -- First eyewitness report. Tim Calhoun, a janitor at the Lasch Football Building on Penn State's campus, tells another janitor and his supervisor that he saw Sandusky performing oral sex on a young boy. The incident goes unreported.

    2000 -- Second eyewitness report. Another janitor sees Sandusky and a boy leave the shower room together and walk out of the building hand in hand, according to the grand jury report. No one reports the incident to university officials or law enforcement.

    March 2, 2002 -- A graduate assistant allegedly tells Coach Joe Paterno that he saw Sandusky in the locker room shower on Mar. 1 with a young boy. The retired defense coordinator was engaging in anal sex with the boy, believed to be no more than 10 years old.

    March 3, 2002 -- Paterno reports the incident to Athletic Director Tim Curley. Paterno tells Curley the grad student had seen Sandusky "fondling or doing something of a sexual nature to a young boy." The graduate assistant is called to a meeting with Curley and Schultz.

    March 3, 2002 -- The assistant, according to the grand jury report, sticks by his story, saying he saw Sandusky having anal sex with the young boy. Schultz, 62, and Curley, 57, told the grand jury they could not remember the details of the meeting. Schultz said Sandusky "might have inappropriately grabbed the young boy's genitals during wrestling," and Curley said he was under the impression, like Schultz, that the affair involved little more than "horsing around."

    March, 2002 -- Sandusky's locker room keys are confiscated, and he is told not to bring his Second Mile participants to campus. The incident is not reported to police, and no official investigation is launched.

    March, 2002 -- The Second Mile learns of the shower incident through Penn State. Curley tells them that "the information had been internally reviewed, and that there was no finding of wrongdoing."

    2005 or 2006 -- Sandusky allegedly befriends and molests another Second-Mile participant. These allegation will form the foundation of the multi-year grand jury investigation about to launch.

    2006 or 2007 --Fourth known eyewitness report. A wrestling coach at a high school where Sandusky volunteers surprises the former coach and a young boy. The two are allegedly "lying on their sides, in physical contact, face to face on a mat." Sandusky jumps to feet, telling the coach the two were practicing wrestling moves, which seemed believable. Later, according to the wrestling coach's testimony, Sandusky begins to spend more time with the boy, taking him to sporting events and giving him gifts like a computer, golf clubs, clothing and cash. Sandusky allegedly performs oral sex on the boy over 20 times, and boy performs oral sex on Sandusky at least once, according to grand jury reports.

    2008 -- The boy breaks off contact with Sandusky, and his mother calls the high school to report her son has been sexually assaulted. The principal, Steven Turchetta, bars Sandusky from campus and reports the incident to police, calling Sandusky "clingy" and "needy" around the boy. The resulting investigation into the sex abuse claims reveals 118 calls from Sandusky's home phone and cell phone to the boy's home number.

    November 2008 -- Sandusky informs The Second Mile that he is under investigation. He is removed from all program activities involving children.

    September 2010 -- Sandusky retires from The Second Mile.

    Nov. 4, 2011 -- The grand jury report is released.

    Nov. 5, 2011 -- Authorities arrest Sandusky. He is charged with seven counts of involuntary deviate sexual intercourse and numerous other charges, including aggravated indecent assault, corruption of minors and endangering the welfare of a child. He is charged with 40 counts in all, 21 of them felonies. Punishment for each of the felonies ranges from seven to 20 years in prison and $15,000-$25,000 in fines. For the 19 misdemeanors, convictions earn two to five years' imprisonment and $5,000-$10,000 in fines.

    Nov. 5, 2011 -- Sandusky is freed on $100,000 unsecured bail. Curley and Schultz are each charged with one count of felony perjury for lying to grand jury investigators, and one count of failure to report abuse allegations. They plead not guilty.

    Nov. 6, 2011 -- Curley is granted administrative leave to deal with the charges, while Schultz retires.

    Nov. 6, 2011 -- Paterno releases a statement calling the charges shocking. "If this is true, we were all fooled, along with scores of professionals trained in such things, and we grieve for the victims and their families." Paterno is questioned about the allegations, since 20 of the charges agaisnt Sandusky to date occured while he was Paterno's defense coordinator at Penn State.

    Nov. 7, 2011 -- More begin to step forward. "There were whispers about it," Alex Ricker, a former Penn State student who has worked several Second Mile camps, told USA Today. "But when it came out, I don't think anybody expected that big of a hit or that serious of an indictment, as well as that many charges."

    Nov. 7, 2011 -- Pennsylvania attorney general Linda Kelly says Paterno is not a target of the sexual abuse investigation involving his former assistant coach, despite noting his responsibility to report the incidents to law enforcement.

    Nov. 7, 2011 -- "I understand that people are upset and angry, but let's be fair and let the legal process unfold," Paterno says in a statement. "In the meantime, I would ask all Penn Staters to continue to trust in what that name represents, continue to pursue their lives every day with high ideals and not let these events shake their beliefs nor who they are."

  • james_woods
    james_woods
    "I understand that people are upset and angry, but let's be fair and let the legal process unfold," Paterno says in a statement. "In the meantime, I would ask all Penn Staters to continue to trust in what that name represents, continue to pursue their lives every day with high ideals and not let these events shake their beliefs nor who they are."

    I am now sorry I ever held Paterno in high regard. Those are the words of a squirming weasel.

  • Magwitch
    Magwitch

    The following is incredibly suspicious...

    http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/sports/133615093.html

    It is strange that Centre County District Attorney Ray Gricar never prosecuted Jerry Sandusky on child-rape charges 13 years ago, some speculate, because Gricar was known for being fiercely independent and hard on crime.

    But it is even stranger that we cannot ask Gricar why Sandusky was not put behind bars, because the tough-as-nails district attorney disappeared in 2005. And though he was declared dead July of this year, his body has never been found.

  • No Room For George
    No Room For George
    But it is even stranger that we cannot ask Gricar why Sandusky was not put behind bars, because the tough-as-nails district attorney disappeared in 2005. And though he was declared dead July of this year, his body has never been found.

    This story is reaching Law & Order season ending 2 hour long episode status. Think about that, a DA that disappeared and is presumed dead, and possible multimillion dollar pedophile ring with donors associated with Iluminati types.

  • Magwitch
    Magwitch

    In the Shepherd the Flock of God book...page 131 p.19... regarding sexual child abuse..."Whether to report the matter to the authorities or not is a personal decision for each individual to make."

    In light of what is going on at PSU, is the above statement legally wrong?

  • sammielee24
    sammielee24

    This statement below was a guest post on zerohedge and I borrowed it because it sums up how many people feel toward the black abyss that has become our civilized society - sammies

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    I have been blind with rage for the last week as I’ve watched the powerful men of Penn State attempt to retain their power and reputations at the expense of truth, honesty, and accepting responsibility for their actions and willful inaction. As I’ve watched this tragedy unfold I was struck by the thought process of rich men in positions of power. They have huge egos and believe they are above the law. They think so highly of themselves they believe they can make the rules and ignore the laws which the little people must follow. They have no moral compass whatsoever. They cannot be shamed. The most despicable behavior by prominent men has been willfully overlooked because these men generate $50 million of profit per year for the university. Their sociopathic desire to protect their reputations and power has led to a scandal of such epic proportions that it will haunt Penn State forever and has permanently damaged the institution. This is an institutional cancer that eats away at the fabric of our society. It is not isolated to Penn State. It is a societal sickness that threatens to overwhelm every facet of our lives. There is a constant thread that runs through every incident that comes to light. In 99% of the cases it is men protecting men. Money and greed always trump morality and truth. The exact circumstances can be observed in the priest abuse scandal that has rocked the Catholic Church in the last five years. Pedophile priests have existed within the Catholic Church for decades. The Penn State situation shows that pedophiles exist everywhere in our society. The bottom line is that they are sick men and need to be locked up and kept away from little boys. There is no more heinous criminal act than a grown man raping a little boy. Anyone who does this is pure evil and must be punished.

  • blondie
    blondie

    As to who is legally required to report differs from state to state in the US. Also Penn State may have employment rules that affect employees reporting. I'm not familiar with the laws in other countries. That is why the BOE is required to call the WTS Legal Department when a child sexual abuse case comes to light. Legal will tell them if the elders are required to report to the proper authorities in their state. If not required, the BOE will not report it to the authorities.

    http://www.rainn.org/public-policy/laws-in-your-state

    http://rainn.org/public-policy/legal-resources/pennsylvania

  • EmptyInside
    EmptyInside

    Hopefully,this case will prove a wake-up call to anyone who knows of such abuse,and how they are responsible to report it. Or they will be just as guilty. I hope the Watchtower Society is paying attention too. And whether it is the law or not in their state,they should report criminal activity.

  • No Room For George
    No Room For George

    Just got home from the meeting, and I love all of you at JWN, but I have to say something. I know there's plenty of focus on the pedophilia end of things, and rightfully so. Sadfully so as welll, but there's something bigger here, and that's power. Do you realize that a DA, as in District Attorney possibly was murdered so that Penn State could cover up this scandal? That's worst case scenario, and best case scenario is that the DA committed suicide because he realized the gravity of the case that he was getting ready to explore for potential prosecution. Guys and Gals, we're talking about a legendary assistant coach hiding in the shadow of a legendary head coarch, acting as the proprieter of a pedophila prostitution ring masquerading as a social program for underprivileged youths, with customers masquerading as donators to a social program which was masquarading as a social program all the while hiding an underaged prostitution ring. A District Attorney possibly put 2 and 2 together, but either committed suicide upon realizing the gravity of the case he was getting ready to expose, or was murdered by powerful pedophiles who'd be willing to kill in order to protect their reputations. This case, has only begun.

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