Any Texas Lawyers in the House (or anyone else)? Need advice

by TheClarinetist 81 Replies latest jw friends

  • AGuest
    AGuest
    it is illegal to give legal advice unless you are a member of that state's bar.

    I'm sorry, dear BOTR (peace to you!), but that's not entirely accurate. This is a question related to a potential unlawful detainer action. Although the OP is in Texas, I am in California and so refer you to Caifornia Business and Professions Code 6400-6415 with regard to MY participation here. I would post my resume but I don't think that's necessary (it would be a bit superfluous, actually).

    Regardless, since the OP has indicated he has access to free legal services, the matter seems moot at this point.

    Again, peace to you!

    SA, on her own...

  • Band on the Run
    Band on the Run

    Yes, I notice that you are a member of the Texas bar. Give them the poster your Texas registration number so that when he relies on your legal advice, he can attach your assets if something is more complicated than you realize from your cursory examination of what was posted. Of course, you have read TX statutes, read the contract in detail, know the attitude of the local judges, etc.

    Sorry, of everyone who posted, I thought your post was the worst because you know better. A law degree does not mean you can practice law without a license. All the other posters were trying to be helpful which is honorable. It is not their "fault" that they don't understand the complication. But, of course, you carry substantial malpractice insurance. I find nothing "bad" in offering to help if one does know the rules.

    I could go on about your legal expertise but I won't to be nice. Expertise or no legal expertise, it is wrong to give legal advice without being admitted in that state and establishing a lawyer/client relationship to preserve confidentiality, attorney work-product, and privilege. If my area of law was landlord/tenant, I would just say see a landlord/tenant lawyer for a consultation.

    Criminal charges may be pending. The situation has several issues that can complicate matters. It is not the same as about being $10. late on rent (which my landlord claims I am). I won't be running to a lawyer for the $10. late charge but I'd run as fast as I could for these matter. A property professor would not give legal advice here.

    A character committee might be interested in a potential lawyer giving legal advice without an instate admission. This is not Holy Spirit time. Some things are wrong, particularly if you have notice that they are wrong.

  • Broken Promises
    Broken Promises

    Chill out BOTR.

    No one is saying they are a lawyer and/or offering legal advice. Cagefighter acknowledged at the end of his post that it wasn't legal advice, but it was practical advice for a person who didn't know what to do next.

  • Band on the Run
    Band on the Run

    No, you are not trained. Most of what was posted was legal advice. It is one thing to say my lease states,............." To say my lease says and Texas must.... is legal advice. One is informational. The other is putting information into action for a special set of facts. Even the posters who offered "correct" answers only saw one portion of the whole pie. I'm not going to call the FBI in with bloodhounds but people should know that answering such queries exposes them to potential liability.

    I know much more about the law and what I know chills me to offer advice. It is sort of the physicians' first rule is to do no harm. Wikipedia and other forums remove requests for legal advice. Wikipedia does not want to be sued. I thought the concern and helpfulness was great.

    It is not a casual matter. Someone's home is involved. A rental is still a home. Maybe these issues are not important to someone with Bill Gates' wealth but they would be very important to me in my personal life. It is wrong.

  • Broken Promises
    Broken Promises

    Just what are YOUR qualifications, BOTR?

  • Band on the Run
    Band on the Run

    I am admitted in New YOrk since 1980. My NY admission makes it impossible for me to give advice on Texas law. I am capable of researching it and writing memos for internal use. Only a Texas admitted lawyer can give legal advice on Texas law.

    I graduated from Columbia University and NYU Law School. So even if I knew Texas law, I would say see a lawyer. I won't give advice for NYS matters unless there is a clear attorney/client relationship.

  • AGuest
    AGuest
    Yes, I notice that you are a member of the Texas bar. Give them the poster your Texas registration number so that when he relies on your legal advice, he can attach your assets if something is more complicated than you realize from your cursory examination of what was posted. Of course, you have read TX statutes, read the contract in detail, know the attitude of the local judges, etc.

    I'm sorry, but you will have to show me where I gave anyone legal "advice." I related to the OP the same information he could find in any NOLO Press book... and you know it. I also suggested mediation, which anyone can do, and certainly I, a Certified Mediator, should do.

    Sorry, of everyone who posted, I thought your post was the worst because you know better. A law degree does not mean you can practice law without a license.

    I didn't "practice" law... and YOU should know that. I can answer any question, posted publicly, so long as I am not soliciting business or payment. If it is an unlawful detainer matter, I can answer that... "in California"... under the B&P Code, due to MY credentials.

    All the other posters were trying to be helpful which is honorable. It is not their "fault" that they don't understand the complication. But, of course, you carry substantial malpractice insurance. I find nothing "bad" in offering to help if one does know the rules.

    I know the rules, dear one. I'm not sure you do, though. People ask "legal" questions on forums like "Ask.com" and others all the time. I am a responder on a forum geared specifically toward low-income/Section 8 and related "legal" questions... due to my certification as a Fair Housing Specialist. I don't hold myself out to be a lawyer; I simply have about 25 years of working as a housing administrator, with a long list of certifications that "qualify" me to respond to random questions involving housing, leases, unlawful detainers, and fair housing. Unfortunately, YOUR line of law (civil rights) apparently hasn't given you much insight into this. I realize that many (most) lawyers resent it that paralegals and others can in fact "assist" and even give advice in some areas but, hey, that's what the law permits... and I didn't make the law.

    I could go on about your legal expertise but I won't to be nice.

    No, please... do. Go on. I'm not sure you KNOW, but feel free, if you're feeling froggy, to give it a shot...

    Expertise or no legal expertise, it is wrong to give legal advice without being admitted in that state and establishing a lawyer/client relationship to preserve confidentiality, attorney work-product, and privilege.

    You obviously didn't read the Code section I cited. Now, why doesn't that surprise me?

    If my area of law was landlord/tenant, I would just say see a landlord/tenant lawyer for a consultation.

    That's you. Me? I would offer a way for the dear OP to save his money. I mean, he's already gonna pay out the nose, which he's shared that he's having problems with. So, I suggested mediation... which is entirely appropriate. Heck, YOU should have suggested it. But, well, gotta keep that moola n the "family," don't we?

    Criminal charges may be pending.

    Criminal charges?? Oh, you mean because his girlfriend was, say, cooking meth... instead of, say, dinner? And they're staying around to work it out with the landlord? Ummm, yeah, okay, right...

    The situation has several issues that can complicate matters. It is not the same as about being $10. late on rent (which my landlord claims I am). I won't be running to a lawyer for the $10. late charge but I'd run as fast as I could for these matter. A property professor would not give legal advice here.

    First, I don't think that the fact that, although a lawyer, you RENT... makes you much of an expert in landlord/tenant issues. Second, a property professor pretty much knows "common law" property and landlord/tenant issues... and maybe a little commerical leasing stuff. Very few know residential rental laws. On the other hand, housing administrators/certified property managers... with over 20 years of experience, again a long list of certifications in the field, that has been called to testify as a housing "expert" in court, AND has a law degree... might know a LITTLE sumpin-sumpin. Including that simply trying to help a "friend" isn't going to land her in jail... or keep her from being admitted to the Bar.

    A character committee might be interested in a potential lawyer giving legal advice without an instate admission.

    I dunno. Given my last discussion with that Committee... they've got a lot more than something like that to worry about. But, hey, if you feel I've overstepped my "moral" obligation, here... give 'em a call.

    This is not Holy Spirit time. Some things are wrong, particularly if you have notice that they are wrong.

    Seriously, dear BOTR... you really need to consider taking that "I'm a lawyer" stick out of your... well, you get my gist. Someone here asked for help... and I offered what I could, legally. That it offends YOUR sense of... well, "good lawyering," is, well... something YOU might want to deal with (I mean, why do you even CARE?). I stated nothing wrong, inaccurate, misleading, dangerous, or [potentially] harmful. Nothing that violated anyone's right... or might lead them to lose their rights. I never said "You don't need to/shouldn't consult an attorney." I did, again, suggest mediation. And, again, the OP stated he had access to free legal counsel so... again... it's a MOOT issue.

    Get a grip, girl. I get it that lawyering is YOUR entire life. It isn't everyone's, though. Something you might want to think about.

    As always, peace to you (and THANK you, BP, for trying to calm dear BOTR down. Lord knows, she needs it, right now...).

    SA, on her own...

  • mrsjones5
    mrsjones5

    Don't get Shelby stirred up, nah uh. *wags finger*

  • JeffT
    JeffT

    I've been working as a property accountant/asset manager in multi-family real estate since 1984. BOTR is right, this thing has too many moving parts to shoot from the hip at it. For example, I've been through several similar incidents. Even the $1623 is meaningless in this context. If the fire was limited to a pan full of grease that blackened the ceiling it may be high. On the other hand if there's a charred hole in the house where the kitchen used to be, it is low.

    Emotions also get high, you're living there it is your home. And it sounds like you have a small time landlord. That house may be all of his net worth.

    If you have access to free legal advice, go get it.

    Side note to everybody: get renters insurance. Around here a standard policy runs less than $150/year. In a case like this you call your insurance agent and let them handle it. If you're the landlord get the appropriate insurance and notify the mortgage company. (and there is another possible moving part, the landlord may or may not have insurance and may or may not be able to rent the place legally).

    Last summer I wrote an article about this from the potential landlord's point of view.

    http://www.ehow.com/info_8721987_should-condo-being-forced-rental.html

  • AGuest
    AGuest
    Side note to everybody: get renters insurance. Around here a standard policy runs less than $150/year. In a case like this you call your insurance agent and let them handle it. If you're the landlord get the appropriate insurance and notify the mortgage company. (and there is another possible moving part, the landlord may or may not have insurance and may or may not be able to rent the place legally).

    Oh, no, wait, dear JeffT (peace to you!): although your advice is good and sound (and everyone who rents should consider, if not follow it)... it is "advice"... and since it relates to this issue, as well as might help someone out of a future property damage claim issue... "legal" advice. So, it is inappropriate and illegal and if you don't take care, you may just lose your "asset manager"-ishness.

    On another note, though... are your properties subsidized, tax credit, or conventional sites... or all a combination of all three? Just curious...

    Peace! Oh, and don't let dear BOTR know I "checked" you. She might not like it that I got to it before she did...

    SA, on her own...

    P.S. I just read your article... which was quite good, BTW... but I want to know just what kind of license/credentials you have such that you have the audacity to even write such an article? I don't perceive that you are an attorney; yet, your articles contains all KINDS of "advice." Just who do you think you are... and where do you get off writing such stuff?? Your advice hinged on various landlord/tenant issues that only an attorney licensed in your state is qualify to opine/speak on... and so I am offended by it. Regardless of how danged good and accurate it was. I think you need to remove it...

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