Any Texas Lawyers in the House (or anyone else)? Need advice

by TheClarinetist 81 Replies latest jw friends

  • AGuest
    AGuest

    Didn't mention your name, but if the shoe fits.

    Oh, you're not that opaque, dear Q, truly(and peace to you, really - so don't go takin' no offense, hear?). A comment from you... all of a sudden... out of the blue... and the only person on the thread you "usually" have a problem with being me? Really... you're much more transparent than you think.

    Nope, you made this thought up all by yourself.

    See above...

    Nope, helping is not generally egotistical. Having been schooled on why legal matters need to be handled by professionals with access to the facts and then posting a little incorrect lecture back is prideful.

    Incorrect as to what? Please... do tell...

    Not even relevant.

    To you, no. That's what I was sayin'...

    What does this attempt to attack me even mean?

    Ummm... what it "said"?

    Tinyness? I thought you'd already said you understood me in previous posts? Are you now claiming skills in the psychological profiling department as well?

    Heck, YOU do it all the time. What, you the only "armchair" analyst allowed on the board?

    Not relevant, no-one is saying you do.

    Relevant to me, which is all that counts. Not caring what is irrelevent to you...

    Then you are the very last person that anyone should seek legal advice from. This isn't an episode of Quincy.

    No one "sought" legal advice from me. No legal advice was OFFERED from me... except maybe to consider mediation versus hiring an attorney...

    Are you saying you are a law breaker her. Your meaning is unclear?

    I said what I said. That it's unclear to you is... what's your word? Irrelevant...

    Your god has testable manifestations in the physical world? Awesome , let's get testing.

    Let's. Pull out that number...

    Well done. Excellent. A bit proud of your own goodness but hey, blow your own trumpet you deserve it. Not relevant to the legal situation being discussed.

    Sure it was. It explains why I am not concerned with what you... and one other... apparently thinks I SHOULD be concerned about.

    This will help the OP how or is this now just about you?

    It was about me, although not "just". You have a problem with that... why? Oh, that's right... you weren't even addressing ME... so YOU don't actually CARE when something is about ME. That makes you look a little silly, though, doesn't it... even bothering with "me" at this point?

    Actually there is, you break the law even when motivated by love you pay the price.

    Not always, dear one. Ultimately depends on what the judge/jury thinks. Even then, tt's only a "price," dear one... if you mind "paying" it. Otherwise, it's a gift...

    But don't worry god will have your back even if it has to be at the state penitentiary. Loads of Xians in jail.

    I have no doubt He will... but for you to take this to the level of the state penitentiary (which only houses "felons")... shows me that you know even less about it that you believe I do...

    What?

    Ahhh... over your head once again, am I?

    Do you see the hypocrisy with this and your preceding statements?

    No, I don't, actually. But please... feel free to "enlighten" me...

    He must be thrilled with you.

    I truly hope so, but that's not for me to say. We'll have to wait and see. I'm not afraid of what he ultimately decides, though... whichever way. The decision is, after all, his...

    Again, peace to you, Q! 'Cause, goodness, once again you "sound" like you need a little...

    A slave of Christ,

    SA, who wants to thank you for keeping our little "engagement" going. I actually like our conversations, if you can call them that. Great exercises in "mental calisthetics" (sp)...

  • wha happened?
    wha happened?

    Cage, do u really believe he has a law practice? My business partner has his own firm. Small. He and a few employees. I can't see him spending alot of time, if any, on this crapola. Too busy making a living

  • AGuest
    AGuest
    this is getting dumb.

    Sorry, folks, it is dumb, now, yes. But "fun" dumb... at least, for me.

    Like many in the field, dear BOTR takes her profession... and herself, as a result... a bit too seriously, IMHO, dear CF (peace to you!). Many lawyers do. Part of that is the serious implications for malpractice, etc. This "fear" causes them to often see... well, what's not REALLY there. That's not to say that there AREN'T people out there posturing as attorneys, with no schooling/licensing to back it up. There are, and I get the concern.

    The money/fee thing is in there, too, though, unfortunately - many resent that others may be able to do some of the things they paid out the nose to be able to do... without paying/doing the same work to get there (tuition/attending law school). Having paid out the nose and done the work myself, I get that... to some degree. "Time is [not always] money" for me.

    Again, for ME... it sometimes smacks of religious leaders (which were, initially, 'lawyers'!) who claim to "know" [about] God... and the Law... but won't share that [knowledge] without exacting some kind of fee. Doesn't change a thing in MY mind that they call it a "free donation/contribution." Free... ch'eah, right.

    This was not a legal matter for me, as much as it was an opportunity to help another.

    Peace!

    SA, on her own...

  • AGuest
    AGuest

    Dear BOTR is a "she"... dear WH (peace to you, dear one!)... and I don't doubt that she is a licensed attorney (NY). I did often wonder how a practicing attorney had time to spend here, but I believe she experienced an injury awhile ago and is trying to heal from that (I could be wrong). I think that this may cause her to have a lot more time on her hands that she is used to and that, for me, explains her pendantry. It cannot be easy for someone who's practiced law for 20 years or so to "remove" themselves when something of a potential legal nature comes up - I have that problem, too... especially when it comes to housing, property management, landlord/tenant matters (as you can see here)... and so I understand.

    I just wish she could sometimes lighten up: this is a social forum and people discuss all manner of things. From child/spousal abuse, to medical issues, to mental illness, to business... we run the gamut... and folks give all KINDS of "advice"... solicitied and unsolicited. To take offense in the manner she did... was, IMHO... quite unnecessary. A simply "you might wannt take care, folks" would have gone a lot farther, I'm sure, rather than accusing people of breaking the law (which, in TRUTH, NO ONE did).

    But let's give her the benefit of the doubt... that she's only trying to come from where/what SHE knows... even if that might not be entirely accurate or up to date. She means well, I believe, and was only acting from a position of what she does: lawyering.

    Again, peace to you!

    SA, on her own...

  • Band on the Run
    Band on the Run

    A Guest,

    The others might not realize it but you know that the face of the TX statute doesn't determine the law. Statutes are interpreted through codified rules and regulations, and by case law. So I assume you will be the oh so noble and Godly person, and review the hundreds, if not thousands of cases, involved. I read a codified code whose comments point to a very complicated case law situation. It would be great if you would kindly drop all your other life activites and review every case, brief it, and write a legal memo. Then, you would not mess up someone's life for several months. Don't forget the regs.

    Everyone else, You can be liable for giving legal advice. If I was overly harsh, I apoligize to everyone but A Guest. There evidently needs more public education about how far one can go with giving legal advice. As I said, merely posting a statute or saying "IN general, a lease is a contract that defines the rights and responsibilies of both parties." is fine. It should be encouraged. When you start discussing details from the fact pattern the OP provides, it is legal advice. You have no way of knowing what the OP doesn't realize is important. I completely understand wanting to help someone or seeking help. As an example, I did not refrain from doing so. I was very wrong. Of course, the biggest reason for not doing so is that you don't have a handy dandy required malpractice insurance that can be readily attached.

    People take aspirin and tylenol. There is a lot of medical info available through TV, magazines, and the Internet. Taking OTC drugs does not give you the education to do heart or brain surgery. If people truly care about the OP, and he needs support, it is to be supportive and encourage him to see someone who is competent to help him. The person who says things with the most authority is not necessarily correct. Personally, I help a lot of people by giving them info about how the legal system works, how to find a low cost lawyer, how to organize papers, when to move on to another lawyer. I never refer to the facts presented. Also, saying "In general," the "IN general" covers a whole lot of ground of not being responsible if you are wrong.

    Not giving legal advice does not mean not discussing it or sharing your horror story. In retrospect, I should have been clearer. I just read all these wrong things and freaked. You can be sued for giving legal advice. Legal info --you can't be sued.

  • mrsjones5
    mrsjones5

    Love to see this cat fight drag on and on....

    Its quite enjoyable. Pointless but enjoyable.

  • EntirelyPossible
    EntirelyPossible

    It would be more enjoyable if they did it in person, cat fight style, in bikinis and baby oil.

  • mrsjones5
    mrsjones5

    Why did an inflatable kiddie pool just come to mind?

    That would be funny.

  • 3rdgen
    3rdgen

    Mrs. Jones: Ditto. This is better than TV.

  • AGuest
    AGuest
    If I was overly harsh, I apoligize to everyone but A Guest.

    (Shaking head) Yeah, for a second I almost allowed myself to wonder why being "overly harsh" to ME is considered acceptable. Especially since I've communicated... and demonstrated... on more than one occasion... that it isn't. No wonder folks can't hear when Christ speaks: they don't "hear" when other humans do.

    Love to see this cat fight drag on and on....

    No cat fight, dear Miz Josie, truly (peace to you!). A lot of (1) jumping to [wrong] conclusions and so reciprocal attempts to clarify... (2) making of false accusations and so responsive citations to show what the law IS... and (3) a whole lot of "overly harsh[ness]" and so a bit of a "you would want to step off, girl."

    But no claws... or even 'hissing'... from MY end. I'm a big girl... gurl... and certainly too big to "cat fight" with BOTR. Not even a contest, chile.

    Peace!

    SA, on her own...

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