by sleepy 30 Replies latest jw friends
Introducing another angle on the same line....
What about all those ones who DID marry but refrained from having children thru the prime of their lives?.
I know many such ones. Some of them have one child, concieved in desperation as the woman hit her late 30s with the biological clock ticking down.
Hmmmm. From an evoloutionary viewpoint, these ones are not genetically successful material. Catholics and Mormons...a different matter.
Racism, sexism and discrimination
The Bible is as we all know the ”Word of God” and as such a never ending source of wisdom and above all it reflects the immense love God have for us all regardless of race and faith, right? And remember we always live in the “last days”.
As one of the many “true” religions in the world the Watchtower Society reflects these values.
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2 Today, among imperfect humans, a problem facing some Christians is that of selecting a marriage mate. In this a devoted servant of Jehovah will wisely heed the apostle Paul’s inspired admonition that dedicated Christians should marry believers, thus marrying “only in the Lord.” (1 Cor. 7:39) This is Jehovah’s will for Christians who choose to wed. Centuries prior to Paul’s day, when God’s people, the Israelites, were to come in contact with the heathen of Canaanland, they were sternly warned: “You must form no marriage alliance with them. Your daughter you must not give to his son, and his daughter you must not take for your son.” Dire consequences would follow disobedience, as God so clearly stated: “For he will turn your son from following me, and they will certainly serve other gods.” Not only would the son or daughter thus yoked fare badly, but parents arranging such a union would incur Jehovah’s wrath, for it was said: “And Jehovah’s anger will indeed blaze against you, and he will certainly annihilate you in a hurry”!—Deut. 7:3, 4.
As documented from the Bible Israelis shouldn’t marry people from an inferior race. As a true racist and intolerant God he is Jehovah didn’t like nixed marriages. Of course this despicable attitude was reflected by Jehovah’s true worshipers:
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3 Earlier, in patriarchal times, parents devoted to Jehovah were distressed when a grown son personally made a marriage alliance with pagans. When Esau took Judith and Basemath, Hittite women, as wives, “they were a source of bitterness of spirit to Isaac and Rebekah.” On one occasion Rebekah lamented: “I have come to abhor this life of mine because of the daughters of Heth. If Jacob ever takes a wife from the daughters of Heth like these from the daughters of the land, of what good is life to me?” (Gen. 26:34, 35; 27:46) Happily, Jacob entered into no marital union that would embitter a godly parent and displease Jehovah. Before this, when Abraham arranged for the selecting of Isaac’s wife, there was no bad choice of a heathen woman. (Genesis, chapter 24) Should you, as a Christian parent today, arrange the marriage of your son or daughter? Surely not like some parents have done. Remember the warning to Israel and these fine parental examples from patriarchal days.
The wuss Jacob which had conspired with his mother to cheat his brother sucked up to his parents by marrying family. Of course any modern day worshiper of Jehovah must pay attention to this insanity:
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4 You may be a Christian parent who will arrange a marriage for your son or daughter. Or you may be an adult dedicated servant of Jehovah God who plans to marry. In either case, let the words of faithful Ezra ring in your ears, his earnest supplication at a time of national wrongdoing. The Jews had been delivered from captivity to Babylon. They had the Scriptures and good examples from the past. These they ignored, and great was their guilt before Jehovah. But how had they sinned? This Ezra revealed as he pleaded: “And after all that has come upon us for our bad deeds and our great guiltiness—for you yourself, O our God, have underestimated our error, and you have given us those who have escaped such as these—shall we go breaking your commandments again and forming marriage alliances with the peoples of these detestable things? Will you not get incensed at us to the limit so that there will be none remaining and none escaping? O Jehovah the God of Israel, you are righteous, because we have been left over as an escaped people as at this day. Here we are before you in our guiltiness, for it is impossible to stand before you on account of this.” (Ezra 9:13-15) The Jews put away their foreign wives in the days of Ezra, in recognition of their great guiltiness before God. Do not forget that they had sinned against Jehovah by intermarrying with the pagan Canaanites. Never minimize the gravity of disobeying God with respect to wedlock.
Then the Watchtower quotes a Bible text which is really hilarious and show religious and racist bigotry in all its glory:
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5 As a Christian dedicated to Jehovah God you undoubtedly hold the Bible in high esteem and you wish to abide by its righteous principles. Well, then, take to heart also these words of the prophet Malachi: “Is it not one father that all of us have? Is it not one God that has created us? Why is it that we deal treacherously with one another, in profaning the covenant of our forefathers? Judah has dealt treacherously, and a detestable thing has been committed in Israel and in Jerusalem; for Judah has profaned the holiness of Jehovah, which He has loved, and he has taken possession of the daughter of a foreign god as a bride. Jehovah will cut off each one that does it, one who is awake and one who is answering, from the tents of Jacob, and one who is presenting a gift offering to Jehovah of armies.” (Mal. 2:10-12) Those Jews certainly did not please Jehovah by taking “the daughter of a foreign god as a bride.” In doing so, they had profaned His holiness.
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For Jews of Nehemiah’s day who had married pagan women, Nehemiah used Solomon as an example of a wrongdoer. (Neh. 13:25-27) Christians today realize, therefore, that they could never please Almighty God by marrying an unbeliever.
6 Despite the passing of time, Jehovah’s view of marriage alliances for his servants has never changed. “Do not become unevenly yoked with unbelievers,” wrote the apostle Paul to the Corinthians. “For what sharing do righteousness and lawlessness have? Or what fellowship does light have with darkness? Further, what harmony is there between Christ and Belial? Or what portion does a faithful person have with an unbeliever?” (2 Cor. 6:14, 15) Obey Jehovah, the unchanging God. Do not go against his will in matters relating to wedlock and risk your spirituality and life itself by becoming unevenly yoked with an unbeliever.—Mal. 3:6.
Of course in Brooklyn they know that God never change his mind and they quote a more recent idiot, Paul which was squarely on God’s side.
It is of course quite a strain for “True Christians” TM today as they meet all kinds of inferior people at school, work and whatnot:
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8 A person may realize that, as a Christian, he should marry “only in the Lord.” Yet school activities, secular employment, and the like, may throw a dedicated single Christian into contact with unbelievers of the opposite sex. What then? Well, while attending school is not something to be avoided, the Christian student assuredly does not have to engage in extracurricular school activities, regularly attending school dances and other functions that will place him in unnecessary contact with unbelievers. Similarly, one may have to work with worldly persons in the same office, but that does not mean that the mature Christian will attend office parties at which he may become emotionally involved with an unbeliever, even running the risk of falling into immorality. To avoid these things, watch your associations. Be firm, resolute. In your determination to do what is right, Jehovah will surely uphold you.—1 Cor. 15:33.
Unfortunately it isn’t always enough to belong to God’s people. Apparently some “sisters” have little or not enough “worth”:
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12 But what about you? Are you really ready for marriage? If you desire to wed, first consider your own qualifications for matrimony. As a woman, be determined to enhance your worth.
Wonder how a woman can ”enhance her worth” any suggestions anyone? Here is what they suggest in Brooklyn, not very exiting:
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King Lemuel of old made this appraisal: “A capable wife who can find? Her value is far more than that of corals.” (Prov. 31:10) That makes her someone of real value, someone to be cherished by a loving husband. It is that way with the Christian woman who develops her spirituality.
Anyway people shouldn’t marry before they are at least 40:
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As a young person, why not put off marriage until you have your feet firmly set on life’s pathway as a Christian minister? Wait until you are sure of yourself and can better analyze your feelings. Isaac was forty years old when he got married.
I mean, here they are in the true religion, where you need the right “motives” if you clean your genitals in the shower. Girls can have no fling with the banister and boys must at all cost avoid touching the one eyed trouser snake. I mean what’s the big deal? Only slackers and people without principles should have any problems living such an exiting life until they are 40. And think about the wonderful “privileges” they can “enjoy” as single:
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BETTER FIELD OF SERVICE FOR THOSE SINGLE
15 There is also a better field of service to God open to a single Christian. This may not necessarily be so from the standpoint of privileges that can be enjoyed, though it often is. For example, one who is married may not be able to serve at a Bethel home of the Watch Tower Society, whereas a single person may be so blessed. Singleness will also spare you tribulation in the flesh.
Yes, if any of those “impure thoughts” should manifest their ugly head, you can always get up, read a Watchtower or the Bible, which we all know will kill any sexual interest in a jiffy.
And think about how rewarding it is to ring door bells full time for 20 years! What a fulfilling life! Of course Paul is a never ending source of nonsense:
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Hence, if you are single, fill any void in your life with study of God’s Word and Christian publications. Have “plenty to do in the work of the Lord,” keeping your mind centered, not upon fleshly desires, but upon spiritual matters and your career as a minister. (1 Cor. 15:58)
Norm
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Anyone else catch the title of the article?
I wonder, are the 'last days' from the sixties the same as the 'last days' from the 90's and beyond?
And, more importantly, should the WBTS get a trademark on their term "The Last Days?" I mean, it's kinda like a slogan.
I know many people my age who, quite frankly, settled. People who had no earthly business being together. One sister from my old cong. married the brother that we used to make fun of together. WHATEVER.
Lisa
Sleepy
What an absolutely hilarious thread...its so not fair...I have to wait until I get to work to see all the good stuff and when I do it's almost all over and you guys are at home sleeping.
And what I wanted to say has already been said by so many others...I had to smile when I read about all those single bros and sisters who were waiting or holding out for the 'perfect' spiritual partner. How true that is...I knew so many. My girls usually refer to one of the spinsters in the congregation we used to be in, whenever they want to tease their brother..."when you grow up you're going to marry so'n'so". In my old congregation it was usually sisters who remained unmarried...the single brothers were not so plentiful....and if ever a single brother were to visit he would soon get snapped up by those fearful of becoming old maids lol. One sister wanted to remain single because she was waiting for Elvis to be ressurrected.
Its so sad...but life is about choices...if only they knew what we know!!
Beck
It is sad alright.
I grew up that way, got married at 22 to a worldly who was studying.
I have a brother and a sister in their late 20s who are single and thankfully aren't virgins.
They aren't going to meetings and are actually enjoying life.
But, I feel they are still trapped with that dub mentality.
While they were active they were wanting a mate with spiritual qualities, but now they have flagged it all.
I hope they find themselves a real partner to spend their lives with and have families.
While I was a dub and married I never entertained the thought of a family as the end was near.
I've been out for 7 years now and my life is so much better.
I have a wonderful partner and a beautiful 18 month old daughter and another one on the way.
Another sister I have who is younger than me (although she doesn't look it) has 3 great children that are almost in their teens.
Despite being a dub for a long time, she is now out and has her children with her so they can grow up as normal people without the hangups we had.
Hey Kep
I have an older brother who looks younger then me also....but he looks younger because he acts younger lol.
:o))
Tell your sis to email me...she sounds cool lol.
Beck
Gives the term 'wanker dub' a new twist.
LOL@butalbee
beck.
Try what I do, get to bed early and get up at 5am.
You get a couple hours of great posting in then.
You in Melbourne Brother?
hmmmm...Sister?. Cant tell....(Bad eyes)
Rummy1; "Last I'd heard he'd had a complete breakdown and was back in Wales living with his mother.(He must be 40 odd now at least)".
Not David Easthope by any chance?
People living in glass paradigms shouldn't throw stones...
