I feel sad when someone relatively new on this board signs off because they have been offended by some posters comments

by smiddy 43 Replies latest jw friends

  • sizemik
    sizemik

    LOL . . . I've noticed that vamp . . . you vampire you.

    I've noticed if a negative post hits the board early in the thread, it invites further negativity sometimes. Some skepticism is just based on ignorance or prejudice and is dammed irritating. For a newbie it can be a door slammer. A bit more benefit of the doubt doesn't make you look gullible . . . just reasonable. As other posters have noted . . . age differences mean different communication styles. Young people sounding young, or older ones sounding elderly, or shy ones sounding shy, shouldn't be seen as an easy target.

  • cedars
    cedars

    I agree with everything sizemik has said. I think if a poster has a negative take on things, then there are ways and means of expressing his or her views in such a way as to not cause offence - especially when the intended recipient of the advice is young or otherwise emotionally vulnerable. Not that there are any rules on this stuff, it's just basic courtesy and human kindness.

    Cedars

  • THE GLADIATOR
    THE GLADIATOR
    Being a gladiator, I don't often quote the Bible but Proverbs & Ecclesiastes contain some good advice.

    A name is better than good oil, and the day of death than the day of one’s being born. Better is it to go to the house of mourning than to go to the banquet house, because that is the end of all mankind; and the one alive should take [it] to his heart. Better is vexation than laughter, for by the crossness of the face the heart becomes better. The heart of the wise ones is in the house of mourning, but the heart of the stupid ones is in the house of rejoicing.

    Better is it to hear the rebuke of someone wise than to be the man hearing the song of the stupid ones. For as the sound of thorns under the pot, so is the laughter of the stupid one; and this too is vanity. For mere oppression may make a wise one act crazy, and a gift can destroy the heart.

    Better is the end afterward of a matter than its beginning. Better is one who is patient than one who is haughty in spirit. Do not hurry yourself in your spirit to become offended, for the taking of offense is what rests in the bosom of the stupid.

    Ecclesiastes 7:1-8

  • cofty
    cofty

    I stayed out the CE threads but I am deeply disappointed by the way she was treated.

    She is young and foolish and maybe she needed some tough love but some posters took delight in hurting her.

    Why would an adult enjoy making a hurting teenage girl feel worse about herself? Appalling!

  • cantleave
    cantleave

    an adult enjoy making a hurting teenage girl feel worse about herself?

    That's called bullying in my neck of the woods.

  • Band on the Run
    Band on the Run

    Does anyone consider the possibility that she may have been a troll? Frankly, I am confused. When I first discussed some personal issues here that were sadly true, many people wrote that my traumas were too over the top. It was my first venture into revealing anything personal. The negative posts were not a deep trauma. Reading people tell me that I was not truthful--people who knew nothing of the ultimate veracity made me bitter. It was so needlessly negative. No one appointed them a jury of my peers.

    CE seemed to have many voices in her writing. Some of her posts sounded like a fourteen year old writing, others sounded as a mature, sophisticated adult. The little girl showed true spunk and adult writing skills. Seventeen year olds are not a constant in my world. Last night someone a posted a S-M thread that she started. It was explicit. Many regular posters participated.

    Sometimes I thought she was honest. Other times I felt this forum was being played by a prankster. Am I the only one who thought maybe she wasn't kosher? I guess the default thing is to be polite b/c it is hard to judge veracity here. Rather than someone get by with fooling me than rudeness start. She kept popping up in different voices and personalities. Of course, such behavior is also a hallmark of a teenager.

    I have often felt like leaving here, not b/c of someone disagreeing with me. The disagreements make for compelling entertainment. All cheeriness would make for a Steptford wife atmosphere. Some people are just vicious. I know I have hardened since being here. The overwhelming response has been nice and encouraging. Sometimes, though, I feel anyone here is a glutton for punishment. Interestingly, all viciousness towards me is on public display. Much praise and nice comments are almost always pms. The JWs trounced us and now we trounce ourselves. Newcomers should be welcomed but every posters should be treated decently. The Witnesses certainly are friendly for a while to newcomers.

    This is the Internet. It has some weakness. Overall, the benefits outweigh the risk. I suggest people find the S-M Bondage post. It was tittilating. And not short.

  • Violia
    Violia

    CE was given some excellent advise and then resorted to behaviors that are associated with borderlines. She tells us she cut herself due to one posters remarks. That was ALL I had to hear .

    Now we have a thread about how badly she was treated. this is what borderlines do, this cause major drama and split folks into who is on my side and who is mean to me.

    we have been had by a drama queen.

    botr remarks are excellent .

  • outsmartthesystem
    outsmartthesystem

    Agreed 100%.

    While it is natural for those of us that have left the borg to feel anger towards a cult that destroys families and squelches critical thinking skills.......I think we all need to TRY to be a little more understanding when it comes to dealing with a new poster. Some of us come out with guns a blazin (in regard to criticizing JW beliefs) and for a newbie that is just starting to actually think for him/herself.....it can be a turn off. Especially those that are athiest or agnostic. When a person is just starting to question the authority of the WT.....personally....I don't believe that is the best time to start athiest or evolutionary POV. Questioning the WT is a big enough step by itself....let alone being bombarded with an onslaught of negativity PLUS shaking the core of everything they've ever known (i.e. - God does not exist).

    I've said it before....but.....thankfully I read COC and went to www.jwfacts.com before I ever came here. I learned the truth about "the truth" from credible sources that presented logical arguments in a non-abrasive way. By the time I found this website....I was already detatched from the Society's big ugly teet. This is only speculation.....but had I visited this website first.....I may very well have been scared back into the borg....because.....with my mind still controlled....I would have focused on the negative threads and reasoned in my JW mind "wow....all these ex-witnesses sure are hateful. The society is right...this stuff is poison!"

    By no means would/do I advocate censorship. But if your goal is to help others see the fraud that truly is the WT society.....just remember how fragile your mind was when you first started to doubt the organization.

  • mrsjones5
    mrsjones5

    The girl basically lied about her age. If you look closely she said that she knew it was wrong to start the oral/anal thread because of her age but she didn't want to out herself because she wanted responses on that thread. That folks is a sign of major inmaturity and is freaking dangerous online. Folks, she was acting out sexually on this board right under our noses and she got caught. Plain and simple. The child should not be here, she needs help but not from here. I do realize that there are folks in the line of work here who could help the child but the rest of you aren't qualified.

  • OUTLAW
    OUTLAW

    JWN..

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    ........................... ...OUTLAW

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