british press have knifes out for Richard Dawkins

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  • Amelia Ashton
    Amelia Ashton

    Richard Dawkin's books made a lot of sense to me when I first suspected JWs were not who I thought they were.

    He made me ask myself questions about why I believed what I did.

    His explanation of the laryngial nerve in the giraffe was quite an epiphanous moment for me regarding evolution.

    I have great respect and admiration for this man who even when attacked verbally on television shows as he was last Sunday responds in a gentle and dignified manner.

    I don't always agree with his view point but I always like to hear what he has to say.

    As for the newspaper articles, after the first one about slaves the others I have seen have all been amusing parodies of that original one.

  • Qcmbr
    Qcmbr

    Dawkins is a legend - I've seen him debated and at times it seems only he is trying to focus on the facts while everyone else is focusing on winning applause. Truly one of the giants of modern thinking.

  • 00DAD
    00DAD

    Cofty, so funny. You accuse me of a "cheap shot" when all I did was make an observation.

    Then you start dishing on Anglican bishops, a subject I certainly never broached, let alone defended.

    Then you go on the attack with your "Scientists like Dawkins state facts" diatribe as if I had anything against science or scientists. I like scientists. I am one.

    Your conclusion that, because I personally don't like Dawkin's manners, I'm somehow anti-science does not follow. That kind of thinking is not very clear or logical.

    Finally, I have to address your last statement: "Truth does not need your approval just deal with it."

    I agree Truth doesn't need my approval. It doesn't need yours either, or anyone's for that matter.

    It was my insistence on truth, a need for things to be consistent, coherent and logical that finally led me out of the cult known as Jehovah's Witnesses, but I digress ...

    But it's typical of a certain obnoxious style of rhetoric to use such loaded language to imply I'm on the wrong side of "Truth" and you're on the right side of it, when in fact that was not ever the subject of any of my comments. I was merely sharing my opinion of Dawkins personality, my perception of his demeanor and my conclusion that many people do not like him because of it.

    Feel free to not like it; feel free to disagree. But please try not to confuse the issue by introducing into the discussion topics which I never even touched on let alone discussed. That's not nice! Oh, never mind. You don't care about being nice. I forgot for a moment. Deal with it!

    Cheers,

    00DAD

  • poppers
    poppers

    I was merely sharing my opinion of Dawkins personality, my perception of his demeanor and my conclusion that many people do not like him because of it.

    Isn't it interesting how people can see the same thing and reach completely opposite opinions. It seems the only important and relevant opinions are those that are held by oneself and the other guy can be seen as a crackpot for the opinions he has. Is it any wonder this world is in such a mess?

  • 00DAD
    00DAD

    Poppers nailed it!

    Thank you.

  • cofty
    cofty

    I typed a reply to you 00DAD to explain why you are being an obnoxious smart arse. Then I deleted it when I realised I don't care about your opinion.

  • Mickey mouse
    Mickey mouse
    Putting aside whether Dawkins is right or not, perhaps it's the fact that he comes across as an smug, arrogant, pompous, condescending little asshole and is obviously very proud of it that offends many people.
    In other words, people just don't like him!

    I have to agree with this. I have tried to read his books but can't get over his tone. All the same, just because I don't like the man it doesn't mean he is wrong and I have come to the conclusion that he is right about evolution.

  • bohm
    bohm

    It would be illuminating with a youtube clip of dawkins at his worst

  • Leolaia
    Leolaia

    It isn't just Dawkins' religious/conservative critics that have complained about his arrogance. Google "Dawkins" and "elevator".

    That said, the "oh God" thing is just silly.

  • cofty
    cofty

    I wonder if there is a British - American culture thing? Its difficult to imagine a Brit finding Dawkins to be anything but a gentleman.

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