Its funny, as a scientist and an atheist I will never believe that something can come from nothing. The initiation of the universe is to be questioned and explored with all our vigor... and we will likely one day find the answer. The answer however is NOT that it came from nothing.
To be told by religious nutters that it is impossibe for something to come from nothing and therefore the biological theory of evolution is incorrect or the various universe birth theories are incorrect, all the while promoting God, who was....created from nothing... is just deceptive, ill informed and enfuriating.
If probability dictates that complex mechanisms need a designer, then the designer being a complex mechanism needs a designer.... you watch loving, writing in the sand, plane in a whirlwind, house dropping from the sky, ignorant mother fuckers.
Their own arguments destroy their own belief.
Of course the probability they are talking about is incorrect and simply made up. Just like their watch builder ......
Snare x