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by Kool Jo 62 Replies latest jw friends

  • Miles3
    Miles3

    I actually left the Borg because I became an atheist, not the reverse. Knowing more about the 6 major catastophic events in the history of life on Earth, then asking myself questions about the Flood...

    As for the purpose of life... if you talk about the purpose of one's life, I'd say your life has the purpose you put into it, nothing more, but nothing less either. That can be as beautiful a purpose as you can imagine, and a far better one than the one any skydaddy could devise for you. Good for me since I have a big imagination ;)

    If it's about the purpose of life in general, it's about the same. We think, we can assign a purpose to life with what we (all living beings) will collectively want to do of that life. There doesn't have to be an intrisinc purpose external to life itself. A purpose is not better because it has been assigned to you by somebody else, and it's not worse because it's you that has to find it by yourself. Having that purpose assigned by God only gives you the comfort of certainty, but the purpose from God won't be better, only worse. I don't want to trade beauty and value for comfort.

    On a fundamental level, all species want to survive and reproduce. Then you can add other purposes, but in itself it's good enough - because it's not the destination that counts, it's the travel itself. Surviving and reproducing make that travel possible for billions of living beings that have been, are or will be incredibly blessed with the chance to experience life and assign their own purpose on top of it.

    I think of it as parents think of their children - you want to give them the best chances in life, not for your own happiness, but for theirs. So we all try to advance and make the world a better place, because that allow others yet unborn to also experience that life in the best conditions possible.

    It's the opposite of what most religious people believe - a Being creates others, only to ask them to live their life the way He wants, for His glory. No sane and loving parent would do that.

  • Momma-Tossed-Me
    Momma-Tossed-Me

    really you are relatively safe posting here, and if you want to test out any of the opinions here with what you already know to be true. I bet you will learn a lot.

  • tornapart
    tornapart

    Welcome Kool Jo. I'm a born-in, still-in but 'mentally out'. Same reasons as you, family ties etc. Have you looked at jwfacts website? It's excellent and I found great to read after I'd finished CoC. In Search of Christian Freedom also by Ray Franz is good. Once you've done all that it's impossible to go back to it all. It's a real opening of Pandora's Box isn't it?!

  • Kool Jo
    Kool Jo

    @tornapart: I've look into jwfacts & i'm still wrapping my head around the UN/NGO thing...i wonder if anyone who has written to WTBS and told them about what we now know about "the truth" got a written response from them?

    @Miles3: thanks for your perspective...looking forward to reading more of your posts.

    Peace

    Kool Jo

  • cantleave
    cantleave

    Welcome - enjoy the journey!

  • keyser soze
    keyser soze
    I thought to myself "I'm on an apostate website". Honeslty, despite the warning we get from the WTBS to stay away...the curiosity got the better of me although I felt very uneasy/guilty for vewing an apostate site.

    Welcome, Kool Jo!

    It helps to not think of Ex-Jws in such absolute terms. We are simply people who no longer believe that JWs possess "the truth". Once you discard the WTBS's stereotypes, and use of such inflammatory terms as 'apostate', the guilt and uneasiness will subside.

  • ziddina
    ziddina

    I'm going to say "Welcome to the board!!" again, since you apparently missed my first post....

    Since you said that your mother is:

    " i cant tell anyone in my cong/family what i've found out...i'd have to go to another planet to live, especially my hard core mom... "

    I have some threads that you may want to take a look at.... On the subject of building an "escape route":

    Here's one of my posts on that subject...

    http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/207923/2/Blondies-Comments-You-Will-Not-Hear-at-the-03-27-11-WT-Study-DISCOURAGEMENT

    Here's one of my posts on the subject of playing "spy" to remain in contact with one's believing JW relatives....

    http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/217045/1/HOW-DO-YOU-CONTINUE

    http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/95116/1/A-Good-Escape-Plan

    http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/experiences/215521/2/Suggestions-for-finally-talking-to-my-parents-about-my-doubts

    http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/193360/3/How-did-you-find-the-strength-to-leave

    Hope this helps...

    Zid the She-Devil

  • ziddina
    ziddina

    And here's a thread with excellent advice on it, started by a 17-year-old.

    Maybe you can 'identify'...

    http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/198896/1/Whats-wrong-with-my-friends

  • Found Sheep
    Found Sheep

    welcome!

    I feel for all of you that stay for family. I stayed on the books for two years for my brother. He shunned me for the most part even when I wasn't DF or DA. The elders started to got on me again so I DA. Brother still shuns

    Umm I'm not religious and I'm OK with not knowing what the future holds. I try to LIVE now and enjoy every gift of life I can find. As for why we are here? Well maybe that's all. Just to live and then die.

    Welcome and I hope you find some answers FS

  • Miles3
    Miles3

    Kool Jo, if you want letters, there's this site which is quite revealing of the kind of answers you get from the Borg. From experience, that's the same stance you get from elders when they're confronted with a subject where the GB is clearly wrong. They just brush the subject aside.

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