by Kool Jo 62 Replies latest jw friends
@sab: thanks for your input...one of the problems I had with the JW teaching about bad things occuring is because it proves Jeh's soverignty, is that so many people have suffered and died ect, how many people will have to die, suffer before His right to rule is proven?
My posts are about done for this 24 hour period, thank you all for responding to my queries.
Peace,
Kool Jo
one of the problems I had with the JW teaching about bad things occuring is because it proves Jeh's soverignty
I made a video about the sovereignty issue in 2010. That argument was like a thorn in my side.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htRbaYYRbKg
-Sab
A very big welcome to youKool Jo I am the Granny on board
Was a devoted ( Like your MUM) for 25 years.Made 10 people JW's
I was DF because i dont believe Jesus came in 1914( Of course invisable)LOL
I am now a Born Again Christian. I dont belong to any religion I am
trusting the WAy!Truth! Life! whom I believe is Jesus Christ. I prayed
One day & asked him to come into MY heart, since the Bible says that is
how we are judged. By our hearts, not our religions. I told someone
I had done that & low & behold ..I feel he looks after me so very well
I dont understand why,when so many people all over the world are suffering.
But I do believe Satan is ruling the earth....I can now think independently
as we were not allowed to do in the WT..My daughter, granddaughter,
still doesnt speak to me .But that is there choice.. I love them dearly
I made them JW so I have to suffer the outcome. I was blinded & I blinded them
Take it easy mate. Dont be so quick to tell what you have learned else they MUST
cut you off....http://exjw.weebly.com
Grace Gough
Welcome to the board!!
And since no one else has spouted this oft-used quote, I will now:
"I'd rather have questions I can't answer than answers I can't question."
Enjoy your journey.
(But in the early days, talk here and keep your thoughts to yourself around the JWs in your life.)
om
@sab: Great youtube videos! I'll be sure to subscribe to your channel.
@mouthy: Thanks for your welcome and background. What is your concept/beleif of what the Bible means by being born again? I admire the fact that you express your faith in Christ because some people have left religion completey after leaving the WTBS...to be honest, after learning all this stuff about the WTBS I find praying to be hard, but I have to do it at the KH because I'm a current MS. I'm very sorry to hear about your family situation and I can't even think of telling other people what I know because of the consequences. I'm gonig to checout that website link me to.
Instead of feeling sad for your Mum because her studies quit, be happy for her studies, and their families, that they didn't fall for the scam.
...and listen to Granny Grace. Don't be in a hurry to 'tell'. When the time comes, and you have learned the skills, 'ask' is the way to go, but you still damned near need a degree in psychology not to stuff it up. (I stuffed it up)
Cheers
Chris
***Waves to Grace***
Lovely to see you here Granny
Welcome Kool Jo!
I'm an agnosto-atheist now, sort of. But I'm not a fan of labels. I think there really could be something out there, but nothing like the god that is taught in any religion. If there's no god, there's pain and suffering because that's part of life, survival of the fittest. That belief isn't altogether appealing to me, so I think there might be a god that isn't really emotional like us, and doesn't understand pain and suffering on our level.
I believe there could be an afterlife, but there really isn't anything I can do about it one way or the other. If anything, I live in such a way that if there is a god(s) watching, (s)he'll say, "Hey, let's bring Billy back."
I kinda missed the notion of having the pet lions and pandas in a global paradise. But that was all JW brochureware. After serving at Bethel, and spending too much time with other JWs, I realized that a JW run world would be a complete disaster. I'd be living an eternity under a mountain of rules, constant fear and threats, and continuous slave labor. I'd put in requisitions for that pet panda, and they would always be returned with a note, "Not yet. Very, very soon. In the meantime, work harder."
When a dub, I was terribly depressed and plastered on the obligatory fake smile. Now I'm happy. Still have a long way to go before I'll have the life I want to be living, but I'm going in the right direction.
I reserve the right to change my opinions. I do not claim to be god's channel. Anyone that claims to be god's channel is lying unless they can feed thousands of people out of a magic basket, walk on water, heal the sick, raise the dead, and answer my every question without resorting to mystical and obscure illustrations.
I don't argue with religious people unless they start it. Maybe I'm an agnosto-atheo-unitarian-universalist. Religion is 'good' if it really makes people happy and work good towards others.
Billy the X
agnosto-atheist,I like that ,it sort of fits in how I feel..... ,not 100% atheist or 100% agnostic.......,their are many experiences held by peoples in all the world that are outside/inside these realms 0f natural phenomena.
smiddy
@ OM: Thanks for the welcome, definately I'll be keeping what I know to myself. Even though there are a couple of other folks I know who have doubts, I won't mention anything.
@ BS: You're right! I'm indeed happy that people in the area now are reading more and researching stuff more...esp the young people in the territory! Even I myself stopped inviting people to the KH nor do I have any bible studies, but I still do FS but just talk about basic stuff.
@ BEX: Thanks for sharing your story..I've felt much more at ease, like you have since leanring all this stuff. You're absolutely right, the paradise stuff is what really attracts most people to the WTBS...I mean it sounds great to live with no crime, wars, famine ect...as I'm still assimilating things and reading/researching more, I'm not so sure what category I fall into yet.
I'm off to FS now ....which I would stay home and count my hours.
Peace
Kool Jo
our territory is overworked
Where is the world do you live?
Our territory is seldom worked, with the exception of Starbucks and McDonalds.
Doc
