by TOTH 44 Replies latest jw friends
Low key, Not at all. I was alluding to the stigma that jw's associate with tattoos and piercings and the like. For me, tats are cool. The lady is however QUITE the miscreant! LOL
In all honesty, I was just looking for an excuse to use the word "miscreant".
In the congregation I used to attend, we usually had between 6 and 10 regular pious-sneers. During the mid and late 1980s, they actually had calls that resulted in boasting session attendance. After around 1992, it stopped. People simply stopped responding. They would return on calls, those calls would go on endlessly, but they would never attend anything. Yet the witlesses would continue wasting time and gas running around town chasing after those people--for nothing.
And yet, the Filthful and Disgraceful Slavebugger insists that pious-sneering is the only valid career (outside Beth Hell, that is). People are told that, as soon as they turn 18 and graduate from high school, they would do well to take up this wasteful work. Never mind college or apprenticeship that would take time from pious-sneering. Lives are supposedly at stake (since 1874), and they need people out there in field circus. The result is that they get nothing, at which point the hounders wonder if they are doing something wrong. Alternatively, when they get nothing, they are pointed to the Bible account of Noah getting zero response (and, if that account was indeed ripped off from earlier mythology, I would expect Noah to get zero response). From a fake story, they are encouraged to waste their lives and get precisely nothing for it.
Time wasted? Imagine how much you could have made if you got paid. Imagine how much you could have made if you got paid and then invested the proceeds in silver. At 4 toilet papers per ounce through most of the 1990s, you could have easily picked up some 10,000 ounces of the stuff. (Which is 20 monster boxes.) At today's prices, that would yield close to 320,000 toilet papers--and, eventually enough so you could retire without worrying. All that, wasted.
WTWizard
Ive been reading some books about Bible stories in their original form, and to be fair our translations from the original language paint a very different picture. The classic example is the scripture in Isaiah where it supposedly states that the messiah will be born from a virgin. Translators have conveniently altered words resulting in a very different meaning. I cant help if the story of Noah is perhaps telling us something different but over time, xian knowledge of the global flood, has left translators in a pickle where they cant or wont tell us what the text really says. Then again perhaps someone in the past also changed the text when it travelled from Hebrew to Latin or Greek.
Isn't that how, in recent years, translators have discovered it wasn't the Red Sea the Israelites were meant to have walked on dry land through, but the Reed Sea further along somewhere else - and it does have very low seasons when one can safely walk across?
No one could ever explain to me when I was a witless how come the nephilim/giants/ Og/Rephaim were still around in the 'promised land' when Joshua supposedly led the Israelites there. (written in Joshua and Judges.) If everyone except Noah and his family were drowned, what were the nephilim still doing on earth? Got some lame excuse about 'hybrids'. What the hell that was supposed to mean no one could tell me either.
Somehow we've drifted off the subject of pioneers having no fruit salad...
“‘Sir,’ the man replied, ‘leave it alone for one more year, and I’ll dig around it and fertilize it. 9 If it bears fruit next year, fine! If not, then cut it down.’”
I've been wondering if the fruit symbolizes new members into the JWs, then what does the fertilizer (animal manure) represent?
Could the animal manure represent the Watchtower's literature?
And the tree keeper represent the Watctower Org?
Here's the paragraph from the NWT:
(Luke 13:6-9) 6 Then he went on to tell this illustration: “A certain man had a fig tree planted in his vineyard, and he came looking for fruit on it, but found none. 7 Then he said to the vinedresser, ‘Here it is three years that I have come looking for fruit on this fig tree, but have found none. Cut it down! Why really should it keep the ground useless?’ 8 In reply he said to him, ‘Master, let it alone also this year, until I dig around it and put on manure; 9 and if then it produces fruit in the future, [well and good]; but if not, you shall cut it down.’”
Could the animal manure represent the Watchtower's literature?
Without a doubt!
And the tree keeper represent the Watctower Org?
Perhaps Watchtower Corp would be the "vinedresser" that's spreading the manure. But then the master of WT would have to be Satan... or maybe CT Russell... or maybe the zombie-ghost of CT Russell.
The purpose of ministry is not to convert new ones to the cause but for those still in to be kept busy. It is a form of endurance test where pointless tasks are given to people to see how long they will keep going before they crack. Witnesses feel that regardless of whether they will find a hearing ear, they are working out their own salvation. They also suuppose that it does not matter how ill prepared they are the angels will draw the right hearted people to them. There is no need to push for converts they won't earn you any extra credit with god. Pioneer sisters have little to gain since they have no additional status for all the hours they commit and can only gain any advancement through marriage.
Pioneers get much praise at assemblies but the truth is they are left on their own most of the time to complete their asigned hours. It is a miserable life really. After all if it was so fabulous people would be attracted by their happy demeanor and positive vibe. The fact that so few come in is because everyone involved knows it is pointless.
LG, I've just twigged to celestials comment. It fell flat but she was very clever. Read it again in context of the title of this post -
Re: Pioneers Bearing No Fruit
Although it is a free gift they are trying to make their salvation more sure. To promote that thinking the following lines were written about carving out that glorious career of pioneering:
Salvation cannot be earned by attendance at meetings or in any other way. It is free, a gift from God. Yet, Jehovah God does require efforts on our part if we are to receive his gift of everlasting life. (Romans 6:23) What are they? For one, vigorous exertion in his service!
w86 1/15 p. 10 par. 2 / Exert Yourselves Vigorously
Endurance and godly devotion work together in helping to make our salvation sure. By displaying these precious qualities, we can carry on faithfully in our sacred service to God. Even when under trial, happiness will be ours as we experience Jehovah’s tender affection and blessing because we have endured and are practicing godly devotion. (James 5:11) Moreover, Jesus himself assures us: “By endurance on your part you will acquire your souls.”—Luke 21:19.
w02 7/15 p. 14 par. 20
