by minimus 96 Replies latest jw friends
I tell you who really chaps my hind end - that awful screeching alley cat of a singer on the Truvia commercials. I hope she goes mute or gets deported to Antarctica.
I feel the same way about the girl singer for Evanescence. What's her name? Amy Lee? She sounds like someone is peeling her finger nails back from their beds.
I'm not sure if it was the parents that called Sharpton & co in the first place; but if it was I bet that is probably one of their biggest regrets in this whole tragedy. Sharpton never did aplologize over the Duke Lacrosse false accusations he made did he? What a nice guy...
If you are sick of Trayvon, just don't read any of the media stories about him and go on about your white life.
Don't think about Trayvon being dead, or why he is dead. Don't think about the institutional racism that is still part of your country that let his killer walk free with no charges or investigation. Don't think about the family and friends who had to march and protest while they were grieving just to get the justice system to investigate the killing...
Just put it all out of your mind and watch American Idol or something.
Or think about how much you dislike people like Sharpton and Jesse Jackson...that is a good distraction, too.
^^^ agreed, Lisa
Well I'm white and I think that Jesse Jackson is a distraction rather than a benefit to the African American community. Sharpton used to annoy me. When he got into politics and I started hearing interviews, rather than news clips, I kinda liked some of his philosophys of life.
I think what people are sick of, is thread after thread of the same bombs being lobbed back and forth by the same people. I myself am included in that description
Things are not always black and white. I'm of hispanic descent btw, and I've already spent a great deal of time thinking about the tragedy of Trayvon being killed - thank you very much. The only distraction here is this poor boy and his family are being cashed in for cheap political points for the illusion of justice, and futhermore I don't believe there is "institutional racism" as you so bluntly put it, in this great country of ours. Take your pick of the dozens of countries on the face of this earth you can live where there is real "institutional racism". Whether you like it or not the U.S. (although far from perfect) is the beacon of freedom and opportunity for people of any race.
I'm Hispanic as well.
Do u have any family in law enforcement? I do. What I hear out of some of their mouths is shocking. There is racism in the institutions that are supposed to protect us.
With the amount of crap Hispanics had to put up with, and in some states, still do, I'm really surprissed u aren't making that your point.
No I don't. First off to me, institutionalized racism is what existed before Dr. King, where state mandated racism was allowed and went largly unchecked. Moving the present time though - in any level or institution in the country including law enforcement there are people of all races working in them creating a balancing effect, so to say there is "institutionalized racism" is just ignoring facts. It doesn't matter what color your skin is you can go as far as you want in this country. I've traveled to other countries and most people don't realize how good they have it here.
I agree 100%, racism/prejudice will probably always exist in the minds of some in any mixed society, and hispanics have had their share of it too like so many others. If people don't like you because of your race - oh well; you can't police thoughts/feelings and that is the price of freedom; as long as they don't interfere with your rights there is no problem. Each person can go on living their life and the haters can get over it or they won't thrive in a diverse and modern society. We all know it exists, but hopefully as the years pass we can let the scars of the past heal and just be Americans.
Does that mean that it's good and productive to fan the flames of racial divisivness (as Sharpton & co have done) when it's really not neccessary? I submit absolutely not; it doesn't serve any purpose except to divide people, open up old wounds and keep the problem perpetuating. The more the younger generations are whipped up into a frenzy of hatred, like in the Martin case the more it keeps the problem alive and growing. I still have not heard one convincing argument or seen any evidence that convinces me that the events leading up to this murder had anything to do with racism. Yet instead of calming things down on that front they just double and triple down on the charge of racism as the cause to save face, which is disgusting.
First off, tootiredtocare, I want to say I repect what you are saying...I hear you.
I understand that you only want the best for this country and all of its citizens.
Although I am going to disagree with some of your points, I am not against you or trying to offend you in any way.
And I hope you know and believe that I too, love our country and only want the best for its citizens.
I just see the situation differently than you do.
First off to me, institutionalized racism is what existed before Dr. King, where state mandated racism was allowed and went largly unchecked.
That is not what I meant by 'institutional racism, and that isn't was usually meant by 'institutional racism.'
It doesn't matter what color your skin is you can go as far as you want in this country.
We have certainly come a long way (Thank God), but studies show that the color of your skin does still matter in this country. Being born white is still a huge advantage in terms of hiring, housing, and with law enforcement. We still have much work to do.
We all know it exists, but hopefully as the years pass we can let the scars of the past heal and just be Americans.
Not talking about a problem, past or present, only makes it worse.
This problem is both past and present.
And you can't address the problem without talking about the problem.
Does that mean that it's good and productive to fan the flames of racial divisivness (as Sharpton & co have done) when it's really not neccessary? I submit absolutely not; it doesn't serve any purpose except to divide people, open up old wounds and keep the problem perpetuating.
Protesting for weeks the fact that a black teen was shot dead and there was no investigation is not fanning the flames of racial divisivness. That is telling the truth and fighting for justice.
They have done the right thing, not the wrong thing.
I still have not heard one convincing argument or seen any evidence that convinces me that the events leading up to this murder had anything to do with racism.
Well I just don't know what to say about that since the only thing that made Zimmerman suspect Trayvon was a suspicious asshole punk up to no good and probably on drugs was that Trayvon was walking, and black.
also, the idea that the law would have let Trayvon off with no investigation if the stuation were reversed is just unbelievable.
But if you don't see it, you don't see it.
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The good thing to come out of all of this is that because of the protests, an investigation was done, and at least Trayvon's killer will now go through the justice system. That is all the protesters wanted.
Another good thing is that the Stand Your Ground laws are getting looked at.
I hope we can agree on that, and I hope you can kind of understand the perspective of the citizens on the other side of this issue, who do feel race was involved and who will speak out when they see injustice as a way to fight injustice. They love their country just like you do.
And we can all agree on fighting injustice. May we always put that principle above all media personalities.
No I don't. First off to me, institutionalized racism is what existed before Dr. King
So you want to argue what your interpretation is of this term. What iof u are wrong? Do u want a discussion based on conjecture?
