Christian Apologists - Please Watch This and Tell Us Why it is wrong?

by cantleave 834 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  tec

  There are two types of theories, and perhaps Sab is working with the second.

  1. a coherent group of tested general propositions, commonly regarded as correct, that can be used as principles of explanation and prediction for a class of phenomena: Einstein's theory of relativity. Synonyms: principle, law, doctrine. 2. a proposed explanation whose status is still conjectural and subject to experimentation, in contrast to well established propositions that are regarded as reporting matters of actual fact. Synonyms: idea, notion hypothesis, postulate. Antonyms: practice, verification, corroboration, substantiation.

  Maybe that helps a bit?

  To the idea of fighting against truth being evil... this fighting could simply be ignorance, and we are all guilty of that in some shape or form. Someone would have to know the truth, and fight against it and those who abide by it, in order to perhaps be considered evil.

  Peace,

  tammy
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  NewChapter

  Who is it? I knew it wasn't you, but my husband grilled me on it one day, trying to get me to enlarge it so he could see who it was. I think it was familiar to him. Or he just liked the girl, lol.

  I don't know who she is, Tammy. BTS was calling me hippy and flower child one day, so I popped hippy into search and she popped up.
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  bohm

  Sab: By requiring empirical evidence of God is like demanding empirical evidence of the center of a black hole just for saying that black holes exist.

  That you keep insisting your false analogy is correct does not actually make it correct and i doubt even you find it very convincing.

  As you are aware we have good observational evidence for black holes and we have a good theoretical description of many of their properties, in particular, they follow naturally from general relativity which is one of the best confirmed theories we have.

  The existence of god is completely different, we have no observational evidence for god, we have no theory predicting god and so on and on and on.

  If you want to argue god is a bit like the center of a hole because we do not know and we do not know much about god you have demonstrated the complete reverse of what you want: Since we do not know what goes on at the center of black holes scientists actually donot say a lot of things with confidence. try to let that concept sink into your mind for a moment and consider how many things you have to say about god and how many moral statements you can make about god with a great deal of confidence on this thread alone.
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  sabastious

  We pretty much don't burn witches anymore---but I'm sure there are some pockets. Once science gave us answers to disease, failed crops, natural disasters and dead babies, this went out of style. Thank science for that!

  You missed my point, as usual. Unless there is a REAL world where bad things didn't happen prior to the scientific method proponents of the method cannot logically say things like burning witches is wrong. They can say they are unethical and required stoppage for the betterment of humankind, but to say it's wrong and that only an evil God would allow it is just anti God agenda, which is evil because God is good.

  -Sab
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  tec

  I don't know who she is, Tammy. BTS was calling me hippy and flower child one day, so I popped hippy into search and she popped up.

  Funny. I said to him (my husband) that she looked like a hippie of some sort ;)

  Peace,

  tammy
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  NewChapter

  It also supports my point that it's not worth it to fight believers. If I were you I'd give them black holes, we won't be seeing one anytime soon anyway

  If you were me? And what if I don't give them black holes? Should I expect violence? Are you suggesting I should, under threat of violence, keep my views to myself? I'm not gonna hit anyone for believing, have never threatened or suggested such. But violence seems to keep coming up in this conversation. Why is that?
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  sabastious

  The existence of god is completely different, we have no observational evidence for god, we have no theory predicting god and so on and on and on.

  The scientific community is corrupt and will never allow a God theory in because of human pride and ego. There is already evidence, but like the Watchtower, the scientific community commedeers terms like evidence and subjects the world population to them. Who can challenge the scientific community? There are no checks and balances unfortunately. However since it's a real community the laws of personal responsibility are still in effect which is why they have had so much success. Unfortunately they have went mad with power it seems.

  -Sab
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  NewChapter

  You missed my point, as usual. Unless there is a REAL world where bad things didn't happen prior to the scientific method proponents of the method cannot logically say things like burning witches is wrong. They can say they are unethical and required stoppage for the betterment of humankind, but to say it's wrong and that only an evil God would allow it is just anti God agenda, which is evil because God is good.

  We can't say that burning witches is wrong, but we can call me evil and a criminal? Or is burning witches wrong, but it didn't used to be, it used to be good. And since god=good, and the definition of good changes over time, does this mean that god changes. This was actually a question I already asked, but you skipped it. If it is evil to burn witches (and I think it is) then has Satan changed? Satan = Evil, but it used to be good to burn witches (of god) and now it is evil (of satan). My head hurts.

  NC
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  sabastious

  The scientific community could have really been something, but in the end they just tried to steal the Ring of Power just like everybody else. It seems human nature to do nothing but discrimate and create power struggles under the ruse of the search for truth. Ugh, I am disheartened.

  -Sab
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  NewChapter

  Who can challenge the scientific community? There are no checks and balances unfortunately.

  Do you understand the scientific method? No checks and balances? Do we live on the same earth?