My visit to WT official site

by larc 44 Replies latest jw friends

  • larc
    larc

    Folks,

    I noticed something. It took Yo Yo only 11 minutes to respond to my first post. It took him 18 minutes to respond to my response to him. It took him 3 hours to respond to my next response to him. My last response? Nothing from him in the last 28 hours. Interesting.

  • OUTLAW
    OUTLAW

    Hey larc&waiting,look who showed up thinker & prolong2 are here.I wonder what they have in common?(LOL).."A battle of wits with an unarmed man."....LOL...OUTLAW

  • ozziepost
    ozziepost
    Web-developers in Brooklyn - lol,

    Oh yes, H.S. the same is true here in Oz. No self-respecting, computer literate professional to be found there and consequently none want to join!!

    Cheers,
    Ozzie

    "If our hopes for peace are placed in the hands of imperfect people, they are bound to evaporate."

    - Ron Hutchcraft Surviving the Storms of Stress

  • waiting
    waiting

    Howdy outlaw,

    Thinker came on here before his wife, Thinker's Wife, came here. She was terribly abused by her jw husband & her congregation. To my knowledge, thinker's never been a jw - just married an xjw.

    He's done some marvelous research and threads in the past. That's why I was glad to see him posting again. I've never seen a post by him that isn't balanced and well researched - as opposed to mine.

    waiting

  • OUTLAW
    OUTLAW

    HA-HA! Hey waiting,good morning from the Great White North.Thanks for the reply.Never try cyber comedy after a late night,at a dinner party.(LOL)I think I`ll go make a cup of coffee.....OUTLAW

  • thinker
    thinker

    Thank you Waiting!!! That's quite a compliment.
    ps. your facts are correct. I've never been a JW, never even met one before my wife!

  • teejay
    teejay

    Larc,

    This thread reminds me of when I checked http://www.watchtower.org/search/search_e.htm a couple of months ago. I was looking for a reference – ANY reference – to "disfellowship" and didn't find a single reference. I think somebody needs to do some work on that site. It needs some serious undating.

  • Farkel
    Farkel

    YoYo,

    Fact: the WTS already has a ton of their publications in a database. I know. I have their CD-ROM.

    Fact: it is a rather trivial matter for a programmer to parse one or a million records to find matches for an entered string

    Fact: it is hardly any more difficult to do this on a web site than it is on a desktop, and they've already been doing it for years with their desktop CD ROM.

    Fact: once the very basic code is written, no more programming is needed for an application to find "JWs in Spiritual Paradise" than it is to find "The Man in the Moon."

    Fact: since the Society's search engine isn't finding matches for quotes and topics we KNOW exist in the publications, they have made their search criteria selective and not universal.

    Fact: I'm a professional programmer with 20 years experience and know what I'm talking about.

    Therefore: they are dishonest and deceptive and are trying to hide information in their publications which is embarrassing and even damning.

    But anyone with half-a-brain already knows that.

    Farkel

  • cynicus
    cynicus

    To: Farkel

    Fact: it is hardly any more difficult to do this on a web site than it is on a desktop, and they've already been doing it for years with their desktop CD ROM.

    Fact: once the very basic code is written, no more programming is needed for an application to find "JWs in Spiritual Paradise" than it is to find "The Man in the Moon."

    Fact: since the Society's search engine isn't finding matches for quotes and topics we KNOW exist in the publications, they have made their search criteria selective and not universal.

    Fact: I'm a professional programmer with 20 years experience and know what I'm talking about.

    Therefore: they are dishonest and deceptive and are trying to hide information in their publications which is embarrassing and even damning.

    Do you have any examples for this? I mean where you use their CD-ROM and software, type a search term and no or too little results come up, and you can manually bring up a page that should have been found, even when you use document scope?

    I know they have done this with the published indices but I'd like to see an example that they do it in their software as well. Maybe that explains why they moved away from Folio-views (remember the floppy NWT?) and went for home grown software.

    If the above assertion can be illustrated by some example I will put some effort in trying to reverse engineer their CD to plain ASCII or HTML and use an unbiased search engine to compare.

    ---
    Every absurdity has a champion to defend it.

  • Farkel
    Farkel

    : Do you have any examples for this? I mean where you use their CD-ROM and software, type a search term and no or too little results come up, and you can manually bring up a page that should have been found, even when you use document scope?

    Can I say for a fact that their CD ROM search engine was specifically engineered to overlook certain key words or expressions? No, I cannot. I can say that I've written dozens and dozens, maybe hundreds of damning papers against the WTS using their CD ROM's search engine.

    Such apparently is not the case with their search engine on their web site. In light of the evidence presented on this thread, the WTS has limited their search engine from displaying the host of unfavorable quotes that can easily be found on their own CD.

    My CD ROM searches use paragraph scope and I often put expressions or keywords in quotes when I'm certain the literature uses those keywords and/or expressions.

    I wonder if the WTS originally thought that opposers would use their own CD ROM to expose them for what they are. This makes me wonder if in current or future releases of their CD ROM they have an "exceptions" list and that they've programmed their search engine to ignore extant quotes for certain embarrassing statements they've made in print. I wouldn't put anything past them. They are thoroughly corrupt and dishonest.

    Farkel

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