Website by MODERATE JWs who recognize issues with the religion

by Hermano 58 Replies latest jw friends

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  cedars

  Thanks Hermano. I'm starting to get vague recollections of this site from some time ago, now that I come to think of it. I may have got a not so flattering reply from them when I approached them once asking them to link through. This was right at the outset - before I'd produced any blog articles. I can't be certain, so I'd better stop there. I have a feeling that this website isn't as "moderate" as you might expect.

  There is a whole sub-culture of apostates who believe that the WT Society, though corrupt, is still some kind of vehicle for Jehovah's purpose. Such ones propose that bible prophecies regarding the restoration of the Jews can be applied to the restoration of the organization. I'm not saying this is what these guys believe, merely that these are the extremes that some "reformists" can go to. If that's the case, perhaps "moderate" isn't a good word with which to describe them!

  Cedars
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  Hermano

  I hear what you're saying baltar447. I'm not saying the leadership doesn't use coercion. I'm not saying it's not a cult. What I am saying is not every JW is extremist. That's like saying that all "apostates" lie about the organization. Just like it's wrong for the leadership to paint all who leave with the same brush, it's wrong for us to paint all who are JWs with the same brush.
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  Qcmbr

  If enough JWs pushed for a doctrinal change it would occur. I think we underestimate the power of the group.

  - two hours ago I was searching for pretty flower pictures to post before I shook myself and had a stern chat about macho boundaries that I've agreed with my internal self haha. Grrr.
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  cedars

  I've just checked my inbox from when I first started out with the survey. I don't think the response I alluded to in my previous post was from this particular website. It was from a guy called "Robert King" who had this to say in response to my request that he link through to my survey...

  Thanks, but no. I do not wish to support a popular dissent against the Society. My purpose is to point to Jehovah's future judgment.

  I think this demonstrates what I was saying about those who believe in a biblical restoration of the Watchtower organization.

  Cedars
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  Hermano

  I think moderation would be a good thing. Maybe this would loosen some of the chains that the GB control.

  I agree straightshooter. As it is, I think the leadership realizes they're losing control. They're just not liking.
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  JakeM2012

  Reform movement= apostates (wt definition) that are stuck because of family and don't believe the crap anymore, hoping for a change. Good LUCK! Oh, I'm not supposed to use that term Lucky.
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  Hermano

  If enough JWs pushed for a doctrinal change it would occur. I think we underestimate the power of the group.

  That's an interesting thought, Qcmbr. The Society, as far as I know, is directed by committees. I suposed if enough people open to change got on those committees it may happen.
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  Black Sheep

  Robert King isn't 'moderate'. He is pro JW, but thinks the Governing Body is wrong where it doesn't agree with him.
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  Hermano

  There is a whole sub-culture of apostates who believe that the WT Society, though corrupt, is still some kind of vehicle for Jehovah's purpose. Such ones propose that bible prophecies regarding the restoration of the Jews can be applied to the restoration of the organization. I'm not saying this is what these guys believe, merely that these are the extremes that some "reformists" can go to. If that's the case, perhaps "moderate" isn't a good word with which to describe them!

  I guess I would agree with you about that, Cedars. Not all Moderate JWs are the same. Like you said before, at least it's a start.

  Extremist JW who thinks death to all who dare disobey the faithful and discreet slave - Worst

  Moderate JW who thinks there are problems in the Org. but I've got nothing to do Jehovah will take care of it - Bad

  Moderate JW who thinks there are problems in the Org. what can I do to make it better - Better

  Moderate JW who has tried to make things better and realizes it isn't going to change so let me try to get my family out - Better still
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  Hermano

  Reform movement= apostates (wt definition) that are stuck because of family and don't believe the crap anymore, hoping for a change. Good LUCK! Oh, I'm not supposed to use that term Lucky.

  LOL, JakeM2012. I know the leadership would like to brand them as apostates. If enough of those spread their ideas and called for a change instead of hoping for a change, what would happen.