Resticted liberties "and justice for all&a... (page 2)

JAVA

So, at my meeting, when the almighty decision was handed down, I said "Where will I go?" "Where will I live?" (Remember I had relocated) Their response--"That's not our problem". As cold as they come.From there I lived in three, count 'em, three homeless shelters.

Okay, I wish I read this post before seeing the '75 stuff. I hate to say it, but I'm beginning to like you (not that you care if the coffee king likes you or not). I've never spent a night in a homeless shelter, but occasionally serve food in one of the larger ones in my town. It's better then living under a bridge, but not much. It's shameful what some humans do to others, but when it's done in the name of God, it goes beyond shame to reprehensible. Throwing people into the street like garbage is a deplorable crime. I'm sorry this happened to you and others on the receiving fist of conditional love from the Society.

Besides pissing most of us off, are you getting by okay today? Your skills of keyboard expression goes beyond my level, but I'm interested in knowing how you moved beyond the shelters to where you are today.

PS: I love some of the British comedies, and watch them when no one is looking.

JAVA, counting time at the Coffee Shop

Edited by - JAVA on 22 January 2001 12:16:43

ianao

Fair enough Smartgirlpw.

I will say that what the elders did was TERRIBLE.

um, that's all.

Smartgirlpw

Edited by - Smartgirlpw on 23 January 2001 16:51:3

waiting

Wow.......what one misses when one misses a Sunday Session. Good to meet you, Smartgirl. Guess you gave the guys a run for the money, eh? ROTFLMAO!!! I'm an old woman - so it doesn't work as well for me. I'm glad you posted here, I haven't gone to the 1975 thread ----yet. Of course, now I will! Our forum is really pretty easy going, I guess that's why a lot of us stick around. Welcome.

As for movies, I don't tend towards the really gory and grossly debauched (except for Dogma - which was hilariously gross both times) and watch what I want. When active, I just waited until they came to video. However, if it was really good- my husband & I would go to the theater - right out in front of all God's jw's! Our PO was the type who said we shouldn't even go to PG's. "If it's not good enough for our children, it surely isn't good enough for us!" Obviously, most of us didn't pay the 80 yr. much heed.

waiting

ps: I am from southern usa, and a 30-yr jw, inactive.

Edited by - waiting on 22 January 2001 12:47:42

JAVA

Did I pass "hazing" yet?

I'm not sure if you passed or not, but you sure added a spark to ex-JW frat house.

Concerning the new elder yearning for his first kill: His convoluted reasoning is nothing more than a smoke screen whereby letting himself off the moral hook from which he dangled. JWs who get stoned by elders and returns saying, "It's the best thing that ever happened to me" has learned how to kiss up to get reinstated. Of course the elders love this crap because it inflates their enlarged ego, while making a nice little sound bite for the next circuit assembly; again swelling the elder ego.

Glad you waited until the "new system" to have a family. Does your spouse have a history in the Tower? I married someone who taught religion in grade school, and she really messes with their minds when she teaches some of the same students in college!

JAVA, counting time at the Coffee Shop

Edited by - JAVA on 22 January 2001 20:44:15

ianao

[PG] - language

Haze

2. To harass or annoy by playing abusive or shameful tricks upon; to humiliate by practical jokes; -- used esp. of college students; as, the sophomores hazed a freshman.

No Smartgirlpw, you have not ever been put to the above test, no need to pass anything. I find it funny that even in your most civil response to date, you cannot even do so without another malicious insult to JAVA.

I'm sorry to have to resort to utter name-calling, but you indeed are a smart-ass for insinuating that people resonding to your insulting "generalizations" are "hazing" you.

Not very funny. Also not very amusing either. You can laugh at your own antics if you wish, but it's no different from a bad commedian laughing at their own jokes.

RedhorseWoman

Well, what a study in contrasts we have here. I am flabbergasted. On the one hand, you state the obviously "conditional" love that you received from the JW's.....being thrown out into the street is hardly a Christian act. You speak of receiving Christian care from some of "Satan's henchmen".

And yet, you defend your abusers against all comers. You say you are NOT a JW, but it puts you into a tailspin if someone else speaks negatively of them.

In a way it sounds like the syndrome they've discovered that occurs when people are taken hostage. Due to the stress and fear, and the fact that the hostage-takers have ultimate control over their lives, the victims start to have what seems like true affection for their captors. I guess this happens to some members of abusive cults also.

Smartgirl....don't take this wrong, but have you considered therapy? It sounds as if you have some definite issues here.

waiting

Hey Red,

It's called the Stockholm Syndrome - and it's written about by some woman on another web. I'm at work - don't have url, will try to locate later. Really quite interesting. I believe a lot of children/women end up doing this with abusive mates.

The time spent with the WTBTS has been liken to being a hostage, and we, in turn, start to like them because they feed us, take care of us, they get us to think our lives depend on them. They go hand-in-hand with God. And as long as they keep the blinders on - no one will think too deeply, do as their told.

A lot of corrolations. It's interesting talking with someone who has seeming contradictions in their histories, the way they speak of their histories. "Emotionally detached" or Really Out of Touch With Your Feelings is an indicator for curiosity and question.

waiting

happytobefree

Happygirl,

I'm glad you are happy. And it's too bad you are disfellowshipped and female. Because from reading your posts, it seems you would make an excellent elder. But I do not enjoy the tone of your post, because there are many who come here for comfort and encouragement and your post would scare some away. I have been coming here for a short time, but I can say that I'm glad you were not visiting then. And whatever you purpose is here, why can't you do it without being so insulting.

And yes

I'm VERY HAPPY TO BE FREE (ME)

neyank

Hi Smartgirlpw,
I haven't seen any good British comedies since Monty Python.
There is one on PBS about workers at a store. I think it's called Are You Being Helped. I've seen it a couple of times. It's alright but it's no Monty Python.
As far as movie ratings,I don't pay much attention to them unless my kids want to go to the movies. Then it's a different story.
Smartgirl,from the postings that you have made,I can see that you have spunk. I like it. Keep it up.
neyank

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