IW
you are certainly entitled to your opinion, i merely don't agree,
you asked the basic question of ARE WE COPPING OUT
now if you feel that to blame wt in your case -is for you COPPING OUT SO BE IT,
BUT I don't beleive that even if YOU
blamed wt you would be copping out.
I find blame the victim real sad and in your case actuallty worse, for in my view you have failed to even realize within your own life the role that the indoctrination process that wt has had on you
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ONCE AGAIN THIS IS MY OPINION
if you look at the overall life of a jw
what decision in life has not been touched in someway by the wt and it dogmas
even down to the way you hold your husband penis has been ruled on by this group,
jobs,
the type of cars your drive-- 2 door vs 4 door,
the clothes you wear too expensive she wouldn't have to work that overtime if she didn't wear those expensive clothes,
even the vacation you take---some bro spend thier time serving where the need is great for the summer others like IW vacation is Paris,Rome , Etc
yes there is not one area of the life of a jw that is not touched on either directly thru some wt, talk, written rule or UNDERSTOOD UNWRITTEN RULE
COLLEGE,
WORKING FOR A DEFENSE contractor,
working at a day care own by a church,
life and death issues like transplants,
alternative service and the list goes on and on
You are 110% correct in saying "I don't know you"
but i do know WT and how it makes folks like you being a woman feel like Dirt- as my wife often say the org strips a woman of her dignity
no sister is ever praised for excelling on her job or getting an education and becoming a dr or lawyer,
the life of a female jw is one of constant SUBMISSION
AS A WOMAN IW---- if a 12 yr old boy was baptized for 2 weeks and you are 45yrs old and been a jw all your life
you would BE REQUIRED TO SUBMIT TO HIM or be viewed as a jazebel,
Now how in the world could a person living under such rules not have their selfworth literally stripped out from them and this is what my wife hated about the org
on her job she was respected and praised-- WHILE at the hall cause she didn't incorporate a scripture into her comment she was DOGGED
aIN'T SHE AN ELDER'S WIFE CAN'T SHE COMMENT NO BETTER THAN THAT
one could never jump high enough run fast enough you could never catch the carrot--
as has been mentioned if one is saying:
"I didn't keep my house tidy or dishes cleaned"--
then i would agree that those issues perhaps can't be laid at the feet of wt directly ( and even these issues perhaps some could argued that wt did in a way keep folks so busy to the point were alot of normal things like cutting the grass on SAT AM WAS FORBIDDEN
as it were)
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but if you are talking about life choices ----then i have to disagree with you in that:
"WE KNEW THE RULES"
if we knew the rules then most of us would have never been or become jw to start with
that was the problem we didn;t know the rules and all the things that we have learned by being able to like here OPENLY DISCUSS ISSUES
i was telling my wife can you imagine what would happen if jw were allowed to discuss with a critical look at the wt rules and policy and wt articles when we would have get togethers
with 1-15 friends sitting around the living room examining greek words or other information that we could freely and openly look at
most of us would have been outta there
but instead every jw knows that to bring up ANYTHING that appears, smells like, hints at YOU QUESTIONING THE SOCIETY is forbidden and this is the type of "Soil" that we all tried to grow in and blossom
that is why i dare say 99% of us have come on where near tapping into our talents
i don;t know you maybe true , but i do know that if you are good at playing music, drawing, singing, would like to write novels, be in a play cause you like the stage, i DO KNOW THAT none of those hopes and dreams that may have been in your from a little girl we CRUSHED
most jw have NO LIFE DREAMS, all the normal desires and dreams of most folks are taken away from you and replaced with WT dreams
If you told a group of sisters i would like to sing at the Opera house one day here in town , this lady on my job heard me singing and told me i have a beatiful voice and i should try out, what do you sisters think?
SHOULD I SAY MORE-
SO EVERY single thing in our life has been touched in someway as it were and for the kids it's worst many jw kids are straight A STUDENTS
yet what do they hear from all those in their lives that they respects as it were, mom, dad elders co do ,bethelites,, gb
serve jah in your youth and IT DON'T INCLUDE COLLEGE
is the message.
Think about this if you "Knew the Rules" that -Mo -Larry N Curly who work at Walmart are about as appointed by God as my big toes was would you be willing to meet with 3 men to tell them in great detail about your sexual activity with a person,
who was on top
did you come
did he come
did you do it doggy style
did he suck on your breast
did you suck on his penis
and the list goes on and on
so please i beg of you don't make excuses for wt by saying "WE KNEW THE RULES"
now you are entitled to your opinion and i would never want you not to be able to express them'
but when you put your views on a public forums everyone will not agree
i don't expect everyone to agree with me and that is what freedom is all about
as i mention i think you have been so beaten by wt like we all have that you don't realized just how deep this wt indoctrination runs
it is as if it runs thru our blood and the very essence of who we were.
and the reason is simple-- while we all wanted to get life and a better way of living by being in paradise
we believed that any suffering we encountered God would reward of us for.
each perosn life exp is different , but we someone references
"WE KNEW THE RULES"
THAT tells me that the indiviual is leaving out some very important issues
thats my only point
james
