Psychoanalyzing the Governing Body as a Collective Body by what they cause to be written in literature and private letters:

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  • dissonance_resolved
    dissonance_resolved

    Wow, that talk by Freddy Franz about all the mistakes between 1914 and 1935 was really eye- opening! Interesting that he pointed out they were not teaching the truth in 1918, a period during which they were supposedly being inspected by Jesus. Also thought it was strange that he concluded by saying how he hoped this review of "facts" about JW history would be faith-strengthening.... ?????? " we used to think this, but we were wrong, then we thought this and that was wrong too, then this next thing was a big mistake, but NOW we really know we're right!". How would that possiBly strengthen faith? Fast forward to the July 15 WT and deja vu!

  • nonjwspouse
    nonjwspouse

    How intresting in the video of Steven Lett's spech in 2003 that he said first the apostates use counterfit knowledge, which he equates to looking like the truth and if you aren't very vareful can sound like the truth, counterfit, seeming like really good food.........yet then right after that in the speech he equates apostate material as stinky rotten garbage. Uh Ok, yeah, they could easily mistake stinky rotten garbage as good food. Uh right.... sheeesh... how insane is that! Or should I say, how mind controlled is that to hear this speech and not take notice of this absurdity.

  • frankiespeakin
    frankiespeakin

    I'm sure have developed some maladaptive thinking with all this black and white thinking with gigantic leaps in logic that we see in their publications which they exercise strict control over. This has got to be a source of depression they may benefit from this type of therapy.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_behavioral_therapy

    The premise of mainstream cognitive behavioral therapy is that changing maladaptive thinking leads to change in affect and in behavior, [ 4 ] but recent variants emphasize changes in one's relationship to maladaptive thinking rather than changes in thinking itself. [ 5 ] Therapists or computer-based programs use CBT techniques to help individuals challenge their patterns and beliefs and replace "errors in thinking such as overgeneralizing, magnifying negatives, minimizing positives and catastrophizing" with "more realistic and effective thoughts, thus decreasing emotional distress and self-defeating behavior" [ 4 ] or to take a more open, mindful, and aware posture toward them so as to diminish their impact. [ 5 ] Mainstream CBT helps individuals replace "maladaptive… coping skills, cognitions, emotions and behaviors with more adaptive ones", [ 6 ] by challenging an individual's way of thinking and the way that he/she reacts to certain habits or behaviors, [ 7 ] but there is still controversy about the degree to which these traditional cognitive elements account for the effects seen with CBT over and above the earlier behavioral elements such as exposure and skills training. [ 8 ] Modern forms of CBT include a number of diverse but related techniques such as exposure therapy, stress inoculation training, cognitive processing therapy, cognitive therapy, relaxation training, dialectical behavior therapy, and acceptance and commitment therapy. [ 9 ]

    CBT has six phases: [ 6 ]

    1. Assessment;
    2. Reconceptualization;
    3. Skills acquisition;
    4. Skills consolidation and application training;
    5. Generalization and maintenance;
    6. Post-treatment assessment follow-up.

    The reconceptualization phase makes up much of the "cognitive" portion of CBT. [ 6 ] A summary of modern CBT approaches is given by Hofmann . [ 10 ]

    Schizophrenia, psychosis and mood disorders

    Cognitive behavioral therapy has been shown as an effective treatment for clinical depression. [ 29 ] The American Psychiatric Association Practice Guidelines (April 2000) indicated that, among psychotherapeutic approaches, cognitive behavioral therapy and interpersonal psychotherapy had the best-documented efficacy for treatment of major depressive disorder. [ 46 ] One etiological theory of depression is Aaron T. Beck's cognitive theory of depression. His theory states that depressed people think the way they do because their thinking is biased towards negative interpretations. According to this theory, depressed people acquire a negative schema of the world in childhood and adolescence as an effect of stressful life events, and the negative schema is activated later in life when the person encounters similar situations. [ 47 ]

  • frankiespeakin
    frankiespeakin

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/judith-s-beck-phd/cognitive-behavior-therap_b_638396.html

    Q: How do I know if my therapist is really practicing CBT?

    A: You can download a document from www.beckinstitue.org entitled "Q and A about Cognitive Therapy" for a description of CBT. You can also visit the Academy of Cognitive Therapy website to find a certified cognitive therapist. Unfortunately, many people call themselves CBT therapists when they are not employing even the most fundamental elements of this kind of treatment. I frequently discover this when I give workshops. Often 80 percent of attendees self-identify as CBT therapists, yet only about 20 percent raise their hands when I ask who sets an agenda, discusses homework, sends clients home with notes (with what clients need to remember during the week) and asks for feedback, at virtually every session.

    Q: Is it true that CBT isn't deep, doesn't help clients gain insight, and helps people only superficially?

    A: No! For clients to improve, they need to understand themselves well. They need to know why it is that they are feeling upset and/or behaving in an unhelpful way (i.e., contrary to their goals). The answers are related to what they are thinking at the moment. Gaining this insight is essential but insufficient. Clients need to know what to do with this insight this week to make their lives better.

    The next step is to help clients evaluate their thinking, which allows them to appraise situations and problems more realistically. When they do this, they are able to behave in a more functional way and move toward their goals in life.

    Clients also need insight into why they think the way they do, which is related to their underlying beliefs, that is, the basic way they see themselves, others and their worlds. These beliefs begin developing in childhood but usually it is not necessary to spend much time uncovering the roots of these beliefs unless clients have personality disorders. Again, insight alone is necessary but insufficient, and clients need to evaluate and modify their unhelpful, unrealistic beliefs.

    Therapists often work at deeper levels, too, when, for example, clients' goals are related to finding more meaning in life, living according to their most deeply held values, or coming to an acceptance of problems that can't be changed. However, this work is done (if it is still needed, and often it is not) after clients have recovered from their psychiatric disorder (if they had one).

    As for superficiality, if it were valid, then one would expect that people who have recovered from a disorder would soon relapse. The opposite is true. In depression, for example, clients successfully treated with CBT have half the relapse rate as people treated with medication alone.

    Q: How do I know if therapy is working?

    A: You should be feeling better, behaving in a more functional way, solving your problems and making progress towards your goals.

  • frankiespeakin
  • frankiespeakin
    frankiespeakin

    Psych: Anthony I found a site that has a lot of talks by people prominant in your corporation and I have this talk about you gave can we listen to it?

    Morris: Yeah but can you also give me the site address so I can have our legal deptartment shut it down?

    Psych: Why would you want to do that?

    Morris: Because apostates are useing this information for evil purposes, they are rebels against God and so they are misuseing these

    ridicule the holy ones. They have no fear of God!

    Psych: Well I have taken time to listen to this talk of yours a couple of times so we can talk about it after we listen to it.

    Morris: What's the title?

    Psych: Beware of the Birdcatcher (<---click)

    Morris: Good that is one of my best talks.

    Psych: What do you like about this talk?

    Morris: Well for one it got a lot of laughs from the audience and it was a very serious subject I made a lot of good points in that talk that was

    well recieved and appreciated I got lots of fine comment from the brothers after I gave this one thanking me for being so frank and timely.

    Psych: You talk alot about the Devil in this one and you discribe him as a bird catcher.

    Morris: Yes Satan make traps all the time trying to get people away from God's Organization, and when it comes to baiting a trap the Devil knows just

    what to use because he has superhuman intelligence, so in fact Satan is a mastur-baitor(master at baiting).

    Psych: How do you know Satan is a masturbaitor? Does he have a penis or virgina?

    Morris: I see you misunderstood me Doc, I meant m-a-s-t-e-r- b-a-i-t-t-e-r as in a lure to trapping things.

    Psych: O sorry it is just that you talk about the this devil as if you know him so well and yet know body has ever seen him, how can you

    be so sure about what he is up to when he is invisible?

    Morris: That is because I studied the bible, and I beleive the Bible is God's word and with it we can peer into the invisible.

  • frankiespeakin
    frankiespeakin

    Psych: Do you think that Satan could be a shadow projection of the mind in which we project our own supressed evil or what we might concider as evil and so repress it and project it on to something outside ourselves in this case an imaginary invisible Devil?

    Morris: I understand what you are saying Doc but let me assure you evil is real and the Devil is real,, true he is invisible, but the Bible says he is real and I'm sticking with that.

    Psych: Anthony the bible is a collection of ancient writtings which also included ancient superstitions, there is no proof that there actually is a Devil, I mean varifiable factual proof.

    Morris: Well when I look around at the world I see plenty of proof just look at all the suffering and the wars, earthquakes, people starving you can't ask for more proof than than that and the fact that world war 1 started 1914 when the Devil was cast out of heaven that to me gives me all the proof I need to confirm that he is real.

  • frankiespeakin
    frankiespeakin

    Psych: That is what we call leaps in logic, just because we have suffering in the world is not proof there is a devil, we can logically conclude that the suffering is due to natural causes without the need to blame them on some mysterios invisible creature who is behind the scene causing it all.

    Morris: Well all I can say is that faith is not the possession of all people, and you obviously don't have faith.

    Psych: Your mental image of Satan getting people to say things and teach things through Higher Education seems to border on delusional paranioa.

    Morris: Well I know that Satan is out to get God's people

    Psych: You mean members of your Organization exclsuively?

    Morris: Mostly but worldly people too, and people who are comeing to a knowledge of the truth as taugh by God's visible organization on earth. And people like yourself are easy to manipulate because you don't beleive in him you just niavely believe only in the visible.

    Psych: You're a real company man Anthony, I kind found your plastic anesthesia quite comical.

    Morris: Thank you the Organization has always been first place in my life.

    Psych: I didn't know you came from a wealthy family and your parents were not JWs.

    Morris: Yeah they were wealthy, so I know how to handle money and use it for the Lord's work. There is more happiness in giving and the best form of giving is giving to God's organization and not be like the greedy commercial world.

    Psych: So the "Devil doesn't tempt with with ugly" can you explain that to me?

  • frankiespeakin
    frankiespeakin

    Morris: Well it's true but I used that phrase to add some comical relief to the talk and I think by listening to the audience that it worked. I suppose that in some circumstanses the devil may tempt us with ugly but I would think it very rare, perhaps if a person had a fetish for ugly than that would be the bait Satan the Bird catcher would use.

    Psych: Some of the things you mentioned about pornography on the internet staying in ones mind, did you ever see any of this stuff on the net?

    Morris: Well I rather not answer that but let me just say I'm familiar with it and leave it at that.

  • frankiespeakin
    frankiespeakin

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIcQ4IqRKlM

    Anthony Morris's Cognitive Dissonance

    These two cognitions of: God being LOVE & the whole sale slaughter of millions of small children for no crime at all by this God of Love deity, can cause great cognitive dissonace if held simultaneously. We can see this in the disjointed presentation of Anthony Morris as he has compartmentalized these two cognitions so one doesn't even come close to the other in cognition at the same time. Another words he can't connect the dots so he don't see or know how utterly absurd he sounds to sane people.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compartmentalization_(psychology)

    Compartmentalization is an unconscious psychological defense mechanism used to avoid cognitive dissonance, or the mental discomfort and anxiety caused by a person's having conflicting values, cognitions, emotions, beliefs, etc. within themselves.

    Compartmentalization allows these conflicting ideas to co-exist by inhibiting direct or explicit acknowledgement and interaction between separate compartmentalized self states. [ 1 ]

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