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Chariklo

Hmmm.

He's the only guy on earth who successfully proved Stephen Hawking wrong.

How would you say he did that, Dario? To say he "proved" him wrong is pretty absolute. It somehow doesn't seem very probable, to say the least....

Read his book. He talks all about it. Hawking later corrected himself as other scientists jumped on Susskind's bandwagon [They even had a couple of cute bets arranged (for $1 and another for a baseball encyclopedia)].

Hawking claimed that information is lost forever upon entry into a black hole. Susskind argued that information cannot be destroyed, it must be conserved, otherwise all physical laws are in danger. Eventually, Hawking conceded and thus arose the idea of Hawking Radiation. It balanced the problem of information loss.

Basically, information in the tiniest meaningful quantity is on the Planck scale. All "information" of matter can be broken down into these Planck-sized bits. Susskind showed that particles entering black holes encounter a strange world where 2 different outcomes become reality. One outcome is that the particle is destroyed forever. However, for observers outside the black hole, another equally true state of reality is that the particle becomes evenly dispersed across the surface area of the black hole in broken planck-sized bits. One "reality" is destruction, the "other reality" is the surface area of the black hole expanding with the addition of each particle. Both realities for one particle are true and exist simultaneously. It's weird, but his book explains it a lot better than I can.

elderelite

That was my point charlie. All this is therory. You cant say travel between planets is impossible or takes too much energy or warp drive would take the power of a billions anymore than you can say time travel would take 1.21 jigawatts of electrcity. And im damn sure not take a plumbers word for it.

DarioKehl

It's not impossible... you'd just need an anti-gravity generator to squish space time in front of the ship and stretch it out behind the ship---which physics proves would require energy equal to the output of an entire star's lifetime! People don't just make this stuff up out of thin air, Elderelite! "Theory" is often misunderstood as "hunch." In science, the word "theory" basically means "facts as observed now until newly discovered data requires an adjustment." Granted, much of these ideas cannot be tested on a macro level. But small observations in tests with subatomic particles confirm the mathematical predictions made by physicists. They also disprove a great deal and when that happens, no one gets upset. They're happy to have more work to do.

DarioKehl

Keep in mind, in the world of academia and science, these guys have to "publish or perish." It's dog-eat-dog, every man for himself. To have findings published, your papers must be subject to extensive peer review and believe me, "peer" is a nice way of saying "other guys in your field who are dying to prove you wrong so they can advance." That's what makes science so trustworthy. People can't just say stuff. Or wing a paper and claim a new discovery. It's a bloody battle and people can get nasty. That ensures that any new knowledge added to these journals is refined, accurate and extremely reliable until another better equipped and smarter guy or gal comes along with new data that forces a change in understanding.

(wouldn't it be nice to see this method applied for all articles published by the writing committee at WT?)

DarioKehl

BTW: Being a plumber doesn't subract from Susskind's credentials. Remember, Einstein turned the world of physics upside down when he submitted his Theory of Relativity and another paper explaining Brownian motion to the science journal "Annalen der Physik." He was working as a lowly clerk in a patent office. In other words, these great breakthroughs were written when he was a nobody and he did them, get this... on his free time.

elderelite

ok dario, i was only trolling you with the plumber thing. Im well aware of Einstein's backround and agree that what someone does to make a living dosent determine how smart they are... That said, I have heard far to many things were, in theory, impossible only to be done. Be it three minute mile in running or flight for mankind as a whole, the list of supposed "impossible" things that have been accomplished grows all the time. I see a world full of possiblities and am not inclined to take hawking or anyone else's word for it that something cant be done simply becuase THEY cant see a way to do it.

DarioKehl

Ok. So we're cool then, yes?

elderelite

lololol.... Dario, please dont misunderstand.... its an internet disucssion board.... i dont take anything here overly serious, well not personal anyway. When it comes to helping people who want to be free of the cult, then I am dead serious. when it comes to theoritcal disucssion on black holes and things no one can prove or disprove we are just talking sh*t and having a friendly debate

DATA-DOG

Dario, since this is just a discussion board like EE said, let's discuss. Have you had a chance to read ' Occult Ether Physics' by William Lyne. This guy has been run through the wringer by mainstream types who get grants by towing the line for the status quo. Like EE said there is soo much that we can neither prove or disprove at this time. One thing that is very interesting is the shift in science over the years from practical to theoretical science. Not that people like Faraday and Tesla, Marconi, Edison ect.. did not theorize, but the emphasis was not on theorizing for the sake of theorizing and intellectually stroking each other's ego by seeing who had the longest equation. Those guys were do'ers, they made stuff that worked, sometimes not knowing all the details, or at least revealing them. You made a point about the energy needed to travel through the stars. No one knows how much energy is needed to do that. First you would have to know the exact method of travel used to even begin to calculate or estimate such a thing. How do you make a wormhole, nobody knows that. It is theoretical. If you had a piece of the sun the size of a pinhead it would have x amount of mass and put off x amount of heat, yada,yada..no one knows that either. Some of those old timers like Tesla, knew what worked. They knew we are floating in a seemingly inexhaustible sea of energy waiting to be used. The knew that by observing cause and effect, not by writing huge, never to solved equations. There is so much out there Brother.

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