Loz - up to a week ago I thought I could possible grow old and die here.
If what you and I both realize is the truth, if that is the revealing, if that scenario is the truth and not a lie, then 2 THess 2:1-12 is exactly this event.
Also Matt 24:15-22 is exactly this event. Jesus told them also about the armies surround jerusalem, but this part, is as spoken through Daniel the prophet, this is a different future event, and it says when you CATCH SIGHT of it. Meaning when you see this, when it's revealed to you.....it's showing stuff is about to happen.
In daniel 11:31 after this thing was put in place (which would have been long ago or written in long ago, changing scriptures and such), that in vs 32 is great apostasy is spread worldwide. He will conquer the world and those in the top (who are in the highest levels controlling the world) are those who are the princes and leaders, etc. If you know the truth about the world, you will be full aware of this.
In Rev 6:1 - there is a 'chance' if this is all related, that that is the truth going forth. You saw the 2 possibilities and you know who is controlling the whole world, it's not possible for the TRUE message to get that far, and also you may know what those who rule the world are trying to do right now, so if these things are related, that makes sense for the next thing to be in Rev 6:4 - war, maybe WW3.
There is a scripture that says I forgot but you can look for it, but those who have insight or understand these things will be SILENT because it will be a time of great distress. So if this is all true, those who say anything will be executed.
This would make sense and match up with Rev 13:7 - it's allowed to wage war and kill all who don't worship it. It's given authority over the entire earth.
If you read the entire chapter of Rev 13 - it's showing people in the world really believe that this is God vs 8 says ALL THOSE WHO DWELL ON EARTH WILL WORSHIP IT. If what I think is true, that is 100% correct, even I did it. So if that is true I'm having to repent for that as well.
During this time it says in Rev 13:9/10 if anyone is meant to captured we will be captured. It's also forbidden to kill anybody with the sword or you will yourself be killed. "Here is where it means the endurance and faith of the holy ones". - so must be like Jesus, can't resort to violence.
IN rev also speaks of those who were killed and how long must they wait, and they were told until those who are about to be killed.....so those having insight will die.
There is a chance some will be spared somehow, Rev 3:10 - Because you kept the word about my endurance, I will also keep you from the hour of test, which is to come upon the whole inhabited earth".
Unsure what that fully means, there are several possibilites, perhaps when those who are alive when christ or God's presence, when the dead holy ones are raised and those who are still alive are transfigured.
But bottom line, if it's true, if this realization is the event that we have been waiting for.......who knows how long it last. Do people wake up instantly and many within a few weeks or few months then these events take place, or is it over a period of several years or decades? But since in Matt it says when you CATCH SIGHT to flee, that it may be all happening very very soon.
The illustration about the 10 bride grooms or something, who had oil, the master returned and those who didn't have the oil ask them and they tell them to go to those who SELL IT. Things may get so crazy so fast we don't have time to help anybody. So we tell them go to those who are selling books and stuff, it's too late to catch you up. I've felt this, some friends are asking me stuff, and I'm thinking it took me 7 years of faith and study and tons of other things to get to this point, is it even possible to help anyone. So until I get things sorted out, I'm just saying pray, have faith, try to get a relationship w/ the true creator, allow your mind to be directed.
Everything that happens is because everybody was putting their trust in man. I do know if we allow anybody to trust us or go to us or rely on us, we become at fault. So if you are understanding all of this and these things to start to happen, dont' fall in that trap. Make sure to try to point them to the true creator. If this is the true version, all objects of peoples trust get destroyed to urge them to do that, then that is the great crowd, those who had to go through all of these things and change and wash their robes clean. So if all of these things do start, you DO have a chance. the scriptures say though the people don't repent and they just curse him.
If what I think does happen to be true, then when those controlling the world, when they do create the one world government and have killed the opposition, then that may be why it says when they are saying peace and security that the end comes. All those who trusted and fell for the lie and possibly also killed the true ones.
OR...........................................................
the spin that they will have the other side, which would mean everything I just stated above is a lie and a deception..........
is that christs thousand year reign began long ago, those in control of the world are carrying out his orders, the conquering and everything is to bring an end to all human rule, because at the end of that is when satan is released and goes deceiving everyone, so people were blind that in the end it was good that was being done, and it says after human rule is put to nothing then it's turned over to the true creator. so if the majority go against and want to destroy and stop them, then that's when the fire comes down from heaven and destroys them.
I hope you see how it can be spun both ways. One thing to take strong notice of them will probably be what the majority of people are doing. If the majority are for them being right and wiping out those who refuse, or if the majority are for wiping out those controlling everything (going to israel).
Only a week ago I really began to put everything together and realize it all. So if you do understand everything I am saying, please be cautious that both ways can seem the right way. I am not 100% sure yet. I feel inside myself that the first explanation is the truth. But I know many scriptures can go against that as well and I am not 100% on either side yet. I am only 100% that this is an upcoming issue for all of humanity. Almost the entire world is under the control of a few and they have been coming out of the closet a lot more often.
I am going to try to go over all the scriptures speaking of both sides again and after getting a more pure bible. If what I say is true.....originally the bible was like 84 books I think and supposedly just coincidence that with printing and unpopular books that it's now 66 books. If it's satans version of the bible even if it will still let God reveal the lie, I want to make sure I'd still see both conclusions in a more original form and considering the books which were removed as well.