newbie here - i need advice (page 3)

whathappened

Welcome to the forum. If you take the advice you have just been given, be patient, you will make progress. Do not allow a high control cult to make you believe happiness can not be found outside their confines.

Aussie Oz

Dont judge the 'worldly' people as having no morals...most have it it bucket loads and a darn site fuller bucket than many JWs.

What they don't have is G.U.I.L.T. from outdated moral crusaders.

dump the guilt for a start, and go find a girl. You will probably find you can enjoy all 3.

Oz

Phizzy

Welcome K84 ! great advice above , and some more , from Woody Alan ,on Masturbation:

"At least it is sex with someone you love "

All the best for a free future !

kassad84

thanks guys. appreciate the time you've taken to share your thoughts on this...

oldlightnewshite

Eel wrestling is no big deal. Everybody does it. Hell, I bet even the Governing Body faithful and Discrete Slave play 'soggy biscuit' together behind closed doors. Don't beat yourself up over it. It's natural, and it releases endorphines, which beats stress and depression.

If you're feeling low right now, don't pray or go to the meetings, just watch the boom-chicka-bow-wow.

Giordano

I think your first issue has been covered. But the following concerns are far more serious. "i need help guys, now that i am never going back, i just feel. so. alone. i feel so lonely. and i think i am at a worse condition than when i was before. im at the mercy of this addiction i can't seem to defeat. Jehovah seems far. Jesus seems far. i am at the mercy of myself. back in the kingdom hall i might have derive inspiration from others, now i'm not able to do that. despite what the watchtower is doing, all the regular JWs i know are good people. at least people trying their best to be good. they are just victims like us. In the "outside", seems like people everywhere doesn't care much about morality." If help is what you are asking for it's here...... though most of us would recommend that you get professional help or therapy. However many of us will try to help you if that's what you want. It would help us to know your age, gender and cultural background, black, white, Asian etc. Educational background, where you live as in which country. Job skill's, any close family? Born in or converted? Anything you care to share. Just about everyone on this forum has made or is planning to make an exit from the WT. Those that have left experience a degree of trauma certainly at the least a sense of displacement and loneliness. After all we were once validated by the JW community simply because we showed up.....now in the real world we have to work for it. You, all of us, were diminished by being a JW. In order to be an acceptable JW you had to give up free choice and independent judgment (critical thinking). Your natural proclivities and impulses had to be suppressed or blunted. Tragically your natural gifts, be they intellectual or the arts, your natural curiosity had to lay dormant so you could fit in.

When you leave a high control religion " i am at the mercy of myself." Well said Kassad.....that's your first insight.

outsmartthesystem

Porn is just like gambling. There is nothing inherently wrong with it. But if you have an addiction then you need to curtail it.

And please show me where the bible prohibits masturbation?

moshe

Well, if you were serious, you could disconnect your internet and sell your computer- and give the money to charity to feed the hungry, as penance.-- as far as the masturbation goes-- The Bible nowhere talks about that human activity. Go in peace and help the poor- something the Bible does talk about.

Ding

Kassad84,

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shopaholic

Hi Kassad84,

You have a PM. Welcome to the board!

newbie here - i need advice

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