What is the essential difference between ridicule and reasoned debate?

by Terry 24 Replies latest social humour

  • Terry
    Terry

    Mac truck (i.e. typing words on the computer and using that to ram....

    Get it?

  • tec
    tec

    Clever ;)

  • Berengaria
    Berengaria

    So where does straight up dishonesty fall? I mean can one really have reasoned debate with someone who will simply say anything? And what of those who either knowingly or ignorantly repeat those lies? Where is the reasoned debate at that point? How much effort for a reasoned debate in that situtation?

  • FlyingHighNow
    FlyingHighNow

    This might be true of a formal debate but I see little relevance to an online forum. No single poster either by being reasonable or by ridiculing can

    hold

    up, suppress or drive forward a discussion.
    I can hardly agree because I've just read a whole thread where Cedars started a topic about Watchtower's litigation response in the Condi case
    and it was hit by a Mac Truck of ridicule and spun out of control. That topic is relevant to this topic as far as cause and effect is concerned.

    I have to agree with Terry on this one.

  • Terry
    Terry

    To state it as briefly and concisely as possible:

    Ridicule ends consideration of facts in discussion by pivoting away and saving the ridiculer the heavy lifting

    by having to defend their position. It is argument by fraud.

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