by Anne Marie 31 Replies latest jw experiences
I'm listening to you, but I'm so mad I can't make a proper comment. I'm sorry for all of your pain, and will use your story to show others that JW's are not the truth.
If anything can topple them, or severely diminish them, it's the people who REALLY were in the trenches, like you.
thank you for sharing.
ashi
What a brave post!You may help many others because of it; and it could'nt have been easy.I loved your question...What is the opposite of 'independent thinking...'I too have suffered a similar experience,if you want my e mail- just ask; i'm ok most of the time now-sometimes feel councelling would help but can't bear to talk of it at all; God only knows how you sat there in front of them...And was the disfellowshipping all to do with not resisting?They really are such twats; anyone with half a brain knows that when someone decides to commit a rape it's a VIOLENCE/power motivated crime;the sexual aspect is just an added extra if you like, to provide you with the ultimate humiliation.To class it as pornea is CRUEL in the extreme.It makes you suffer twice.Perhaps i'll write to a militant womans' group and let them do the rest for us in exposing their ATTITUDE.How could they not understand the SACRIFICE you made to protect your babies?I too, got away with my life ;literally, due to presence of mind;But the best way for me to deal with it all is to constantly remind myself how well I did to save my own life; and the same is true of you WELL DONE XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
{{{{{ Anne Marie }}}}}
What an intense and disturbing story! I am SO sorry that after all you had experienced and dealt with, and then those cold insensitive judgemental bastards disfellowship you! Cruel.
SO "high and mighty" with their delusions of "pure religion", I used to feel dejected myself so much of the time. I had five kids when I came into the WTS and a husband that "didn't mind if I went to meetings--but don't ask him to go", technically, a "widow" in WT eyes.
I experienced the same things-not being included in so many things, the whole laundry list of crap they throw at "sisters" in our situation, not really encouraging at all.
It used to make me so irritated when this scripture was read @ James 1:27, "The form of worship that is clean and undefiled from the standpoint of our God and Father is this: to look after orphans and widows in their tribulation and to keep oneself without spot from the world."
I felt so bad for you as I read your post, they certainly didn't review THAT scripture as they raked you over the coals and then rammed you out the door.
Wow........
MORE hugs,
Annie
well it's seldom I will read a post and feel so down. Anne Marie I'm so glad you found your way out and so sad you had to endure this.
Never Squat With Yer Spurs On
Dear Anne Marie,
I am simply dumbfounded after reading your words.
I don't know what hits the hardest for me as a reader - empathy for you for the utterly hideous event that you endured;
disgust and a lingering feeling of nausea and pure hatred for the clueless fools to whom you were forced to look towards for "help;" they are worse than any random perpetrator imo - (I am not shocked by your story, but each time I read of such things I'm aghast with the utter STUPIDITY and IGNORANCE on the part of men who presume to "represent" anything having to do with God, or spirituality or truth, ....)
incredibly stunned by your strength of character and insight.
Please feel warmly welcomed and supported here. I hope to hear more from you.
Peace to you,
lauralisa
Ann Marie, welcome to the board, and my heart goes out to you for what you had to endure.
You have come to realize an important fact about the WTS, that is, they are JUST MEN!!! TY for sharing your experience with us here-I know it wasnt easy.
Boozy
Anne Marie-
Ohh, if I could hug ya! Well, consider yourself hugged
You testimony is very moving and a true testament to God's work in action-- Yes, it does still happen! God does care still today and answer prayer. I almost cried reading your story because my aunt---the one who converted me to JW and is still in now that I'm out-- Is that single mother of 4 children struggling, takeing her disciplines, staying 'faithful through longsuffering' as they put it. I am so sorry for what you had happen and what the JWs put you through, so thankful that you have found peace and have a positive story now to share! Halleluyah! E-mail me anytime, God bless you <>< Angie
Dear Anne Marie,
You are a true survivor. I sympathize with the ordeal your have gone through. Yet the walk home from the KH the night you were DF’d seems to be a blessing. Perhaps unconsciously you were acknowledging that these people treating you so badly could not possibly be true Christians.
I’m glad your dissolution with pretend Christians did not destroy ;your faith in God. You seem to have found the true “good news” of Christ. Good for you.
You made a point I plan to remember about independent thinking:
Remember: The opposite of the "independent thinking", that the society so often warns us about, is "DEPENDEANT THINKING"!Excellent point. Congratulations for escaping the Dependent Thinking.
Jst2laws
The greatest burden I yet carry is my role in the disfellowshipping of a woman for oral sex.I was young and inexperienced and let the older men conduct the judicial meeting with me largely remaining silent.The numerous reversals on this topic scarred many lives as well.Many felt compelled to divorse mates that insisted upon it.Many felt indescribable shame for even wanting it.And some were even unfortunate enough to have come forward with guilt and found themselves DFed.This was a case where the husband was a nonwitness and very insistant. She was living in an impoverished Third world country where I was serving as missionary.She had two young kids,yet the direction was to cease this uncleaness leave home if necessary or be removed.For her there was no win.I will never forgive myself for not acting according to my conscience.Even then I felt this was wrong and none of our buisiness.But my training superceded my thoughts.Not all situations that hurt innocent people are as simple as the elders being cruel or insensitive.They too are victims of the program.Don't hate,learn and don't make the same mistakes again. Don't allow others estimate of your worth be yours.Maybe this too will help the healing.
AnneMarie: Thnk you for sharing your story. It was indeed heartfelt and made me firmer in my decision to stay away from that evil organization. I hope that your children are doing okay now and I hope that they are enjoying the freedom that your decision has given them. I hope that you will continue to post here and you will find that every time you post it will be an affirmation of your new freedom. My best to you and your children.
