Disfellowshipped For Being Raped...

by Anne Marie 31 Replies latest jw experiences

  • jst2laws
    jst2laws

    Peacefulpete,

    I appreciate your feelings. I too have some regrets. What makes us different now is we both got out. We have left behind the hurtful people and destructive policies.

    All of us here are a rare breed. A very small minority is able to see through the blinding propaganda and break away. So unlike the proud majority still inside the org we have seized the harm and by being here to encourage other victims we are helping rather than harming. No more guilt. I think you have done a good thing to respond to this post by Anne Marie. Keep up this good work.

    Jst2laws

  • JT
    JT

    Anne

    I want to apologize for I was one of those bro who shared in the humilation of a sister as well-

    i'M SORRY JAMES

    I will email you in the AM

    REPOST-----------

    PANTIES OR THONGS

    I thought the name of this thread was so on time for this thread demostrates one of the sad things about claiming to speak for god, when one actually does not.
    when i was a newly appointed elder at the tender age of 27

    i was introduced to the world of the JUDICAL COMMITTEE.

    It was in fact my first case. i had gotten a call from the PO before the meeting stating that their would be an elders meetings to discuss some judical matters. i sat thru the meeting thinking and wondering

    what type of case would it be and would i be selected to serve on it since i was a new elder or would i be told next you can serve.

    right after the prayer we quickly entered the 2nd school. and there we sat, the po annouced that he had been approached by a single sister who stated she had sexual relationship with a man on her job and this would require the formation of a judical committe.

    i recall so well that one bro almost jumped out of his seat to volunteer stating that since she was in his bookstudy he felt that he would be in a good position to serve.

    the po stated he would be out of town so he could not do it this weekend and it needed to be handle quickly cause it was publicly known on her job

    - the guy got the sister stuff and-went bragging about bagging a JW-

    so another bro was recommended and then the po said let James serve it will be good exp. we got 2 exp elders already.

    so the time was arranged for sat at 2pm at the hall to meet with her but we would meet at 1:30pm to review the flockbook

    well i was up late friday night reviewing the flockbook on how i could be a loving shepard for this dear sister who had been swallowed up by this worldly man - a tool of satan_

    then the time came she walked into the room and i had known her for a number of years and my wife and her were good friends so the embarrassment on her face was so telling

    after a prayer the chairman explained a few ground rules no tape recorders , etc

    then she was asked to tell us what happened

    when she finished --the woman was shaking and eyes just full of water

    then the questioning began

    at first the question were basic one that i thought sounded reasonable, but in just a few min i realized why the bookstudy conductor wanted to serve on her case

    i found out later that he was interested in her yrs ago, but she wasn't

    he married and his wife was one of those big black sisters who was good in field service , but not much to really look at

    while this sister kinda put in mind of a Venessa Williams type to put in plainly she was a nice looking sister i won't lie

    but the questions took a wild left hand turn, he started and the other bro would followup it was like machine gun questions

    Who was on top
    Did he Climax
    was there oral or any anal

    and on an on it went
    and yes the famous question:

    "Were you wearing Panites or Thongs?"

    i could see that she was starting to lose it and she just brokedown into tears- so she was excused to go to the bathroom

    while she was out it was explained to me as a new elder that such questions were NEEDED to see if she was consistent in her story and the details- to see if she was truly repentant or was it a practice

    he explained to me that a "Practice" could be considered if the person had sexually intercourse more than once during the night while in the bed with the person- that it was not needed for it to be separate days, but more than once in the same night and it "could be" considered that the person had made it into a "Pratice"

    the TECHNICAL DETAILS that wt gives it's elders are unreal

    such as the difference between

    1. MOMENTARYLY TOUCHING A SISTER'S BREAST

    2. CARRESSING IT-

    oUR WT elders school spent about 25 min in our class explaining the difference between the two and each has it's own
    punishment

    i was told that the Panty-Thong question would reveal

    "INTENT" "Scheming" "planning" etc on the part of the sister

    you see as it was explained to me if she was wearing Bloomers or reg panties then if a claim was made that we got carried away in the heat of the moment then it would be possible

    but if she was wearing "Thongs" then she went to his house with the intent of Giving him Some

    now this is how i was beening groomed and instructed, being a new elder who had never served on any case i didn't know

    these guys were exp elders with yrs of judical cases under thier belt-
    beside these were all Former bethelites like myself so of course the boys from THE HOUSE knew how the judicial meeting was to be handle

    well she came back into the room and sat down and the questions started again in a few min and at this point she refused to answer anymore questions LIKE THAT and she told us she would not answer THOSE TYPES OF QUESTIONs

    "Girl Friend" picked up her bag and walked out

    in 5 min we decided that she was "UNREPENTANT" AND DFED HER

    I SWEAR TO GOD i only wish i could find her and tell her how sorry i was for allowing her to literally be ganged raped by those guys

    this system of the WT of having men called Elders with no training FREELY be able to ask any Damn quesiton they want to and the persons is obligated to answer or else be viewed as not working with Jehovah's Organization is a Damn Joke

    I often wonder whatever became of that sister- she attended only about 2or 3 meetings after the annoucement and disappared into thin air

    If you are reading this post and you know who you are

    for i'm in the Washington DC area of the country

    I beg you to please accept my apology for supporting such a cruel and evil system

    James

  • Will Power
    Will Power

    Two very disturbing stories here.
    My heart goes out to you both.
    And my admiration for having the strength to get out.

    Humans treat their pets better.

  • Prisca
    Prisca

    ((((((((((((((((((((AM))))))))))))))))))))))))))

    I can only imagine what you have gone through as a result of your rape, let alone being df'd for it.

    However, I am glad that you listened to your conscience/inner voice that told you to not go to the meetings. I had a similar "feeling" inside me, even when I was at the meetings there was this irresistable feeling telling me I shouldn't be there.

    Your positive note at the end tells me you are well on the way to healing. I am glad you are here.

  • Angharad
    Angharad

    Welcome Anne - sorry for everything you have been put through

  • AjaxMan
    AjaxMan

    ((((((((((((((Anne Marie)))))))))))))))))

    My heart goes to you for going thru a terrible ordeal and being judged for it as if you were the culprit. I am sorry about what happened to you, but I am glad that you told us your story.
    You are on your way to healing, keep it going and don't give up hope as it is one of the best things and the best things never die.

    Welcome to the board.

    hugs

    Ajax

  • Mr Ben
    Mr Ben

    Anne Marie,

    Full of sympathy for you. Glad you have escaped. Welcome.

    Religion n.
    An organisation designed to promote atheism.

  • mouthy
    mouthy

    AnnMarie-My heart ached as I read your experience( My JW daughters name is Annmarie & I miss hugging her so I,ll hug you instead)
    I truly believe the elders get there kicks from listening to such intimate answers- We here in Canada had a program on T>V called "Roughcuts" Children of Jehovah...We were all interviewed( I have a support group) One young very pretty girl said she has engaged in some light petting & because she ffelt guilty she told the elders- they had a meeting about it & wanted to know ( remember these are OLD men)did he put his fingers inher virgina,? did she have an orgasam??
    Did he touch her breast? Well I am 74 & I bet some of them had a hard time walking home....Or sitting comfortable.Of course this lovely girl was DF.She dont trust God, Jesus, Men, Or anything now- They scuttled another human being.....Keep on Annmarie Thanks for sharing...Love ya.

  • Anne Marie
    Anne Marie

    Hi there!

    I would like to say "Thank You!" to you for all of your kindness, Christian love, and words of support. My heart goes out to you all for the pain and sorrow that you have gone through...but "praise Jehovah!", because we are out from "under the influence", and we now "know" that we have the right to "use our perseptive powers"! (Hebrews 5:14)

    I am grateful to Jehovah for this wonderful site, where we can have loving association, share our hearts, and support with one another.

    Angel's blessings,
    Anne Marie

  • Bang
    Bang

    Anne Marie,
    I'm happy and peaceful to know that you have left from that place.
    What an abomination.
    God has blessed you with the childlike simplicity to see the situation.

    It seems that 'elders' minds have become so stopped as to not even see their roles as 'the pharisees with the woman caught in adultery'.
    Almost indescribable (indecent scribe bable?).

    Bang

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